why is Q+N considered better than Q+B????

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hanngo

just wondering why ppl say Q+N is better combo than Q+B?????

sstteevveenn

The Q and N just coordinate better I think.  They move around each other in the same space very nicely.  Q and B require the same squares and lines and can get in each other's way. 

RandomPrecision

Smothered mate is why Q+N is way cooler-looking than Q+B.  Sometimes.  When smothered mates actually occur, anyway.

I saw this one the other day when I should have been studying:

likesforests

We were talking about this in another thread... Capablanca allegedly said Q+N were better than Q+B, Flear believes they're roughly equal, and Watson says it's complicated. So it's not so simple as, people consider Q+N better than Q+B. ;)

sstteevveenn

Capablanca did say that.  It's in his book 'chess fundamentals' which is so old now I guess it must be out of copyright. 

Sconsc

It depends on the position, as do all material imbalances (bishop vs knight 2pieces vs rook etc.)

onosson

That game is intense!

maximus_dragon

morphy is just an amazing attacker in all his games

Charlie91

Having the same moves (Q+B) is sometimes better--as in Q-B batteries.  Q-N seems better as they complement each other (as stated above by sstteevveenn).

Ajfonty

People argue about Q+B having a general weakness on one color complex, while Q+N can freely threaten more along the board.

To be honest, I think that both have winning chances. Its just a matter of preference.

TheGrobe
Charlie91 wrote:

Having the same moves (Q+B) is sometimes better--as in Q-B batteries.  Q-N seems better as they complement each other (as stated above by sstteevveenn).


I'm not familiar with Q-B batteries.  As far as I know (and as explained by Demitri Martin) there are no B batteries.

Narz
RandomPrecision wrote:

Smothered mate is why Q+N is way cooler-looking than Q+B. Sometimes. When smothered mates actually occur, anyway.

I saw this one the other day when I should have been studying:

 

 


God, Morphy is the f-in' man! Laughing

Charlie91
TheGrobe wrote:
Charlie91 wrote:

Having the same moves (Q+B) is sometimes better--as in Q-B batteries...


I'm not familiar with Q-B batteries.  As far as I know (and as explained by Demitri Martin) there are no B batteries.


Tell me if I'm wrong in my chess terms... diagram has both Q-R-R and Q-B batteries on the queen side for white.  What is that formation called?

HarryNelsonPillsbury
Charlie91 wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
Charlie91 wrote:

Having the same moves (Q+B) is sometimes better--as in Q-B batteries...


I'm not familiar with Q-B batteries.  As far as I know (and as explained by Demitri Martin) there are no B batteries.


Tell me if I'm wrong in my chess terms... diagram has both Q-R-R and Q-B batteries on the queen side for white.  What is that formation called?


 It's called mate in 1.

Charlie91

Yes, it's a mate in 1, but I mean the formation of the white bishop and queen.  I'm just verifying if indeed it's called a Q-B battery (similar to the more familiar Q-R battery).

HarryNelsonPillsbury
Charlie91 wrote:

Yes, it's a mate in 1, but I mean the formation of the white bishop and queen.  I'm just verifying if indeed it's called a Q-B battery (similar to the more familiar Q-R battery).


 Yes, any formation in which an attacking piece is defended by a piece which can move along the same diagonal, rank, or file is a battery. Most common are queen-bishop, queen-rook, and rook-rook.

Charlie91

Thanks--that should answer TheGrobe's post. Wink

TheGrobe

Yes, thank you -- I wasn't familiar with the term.

lastwarrior2010

you can position a knight to any square on the board.  Bishops are stuck to one color.

donngerard

maybe caus ehte knight can jump "L" and can trap the King easily !