Why most of the great chess players are jews?

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nameno1had

I guess we can argue over whether your intelligence quotient or your intelligence is the same thing...

To me it is like using an inch on a ruler to measure an inch, while there is a slight difference between the two, only to distinguish the two, they are basically the same...

your intelligence either measures up to a predetermined standard of intelligence or it doesn't...

AlCzervik
Rainuchka wrote:
waffllemaster hat geschrieben:
Rainuchka wrote:
waffllemaster hat geschrieben:
Rainuchka wrote:

It is a common misconception that the people of Israel have higher IQ than other nations. They have not. The nations with highest IQ are all in Eastern Asia: China, Japan, South Korea.

Highest average IQ?  What percentage of Chinese were tested?

In such statistics, sufficiently big samples are taken to achieve significance. I think it goes without saying that the percentage (compared to total population) of such samples is rather small, and not smaller for China than for Europe or the US.

Ok, so it would be a small percentage for any country.  I guess what I'm wondering is how many dumb kids they don't let in their schools heh.  In the United States, even if the child is very dumb or doing very poorly they usually get to graduate.

In China, all kids go to school. Few only finish before the tenth year. IF, then it is not because of lack of money (school education is free) but because the child is problematic.

BZZZ. Wrong answer.

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ivandh

I think the better question is what segments of the Chinese population were tested. I wouldn't be surprised if they over-represented high-performing students and under-represented other areas, either because of lack of resources or because of an intentional effort to boost the nation's scores.

^This is more like it, Rainuchka.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2013/12/03/we_need_to_stop_letting_china_cheat_on_international_education_rankings.html

Of course, I haven't spent 30 years looking into this, and I'm not sure if it was a Jew that did all the research, or, even one with a penis.

Sangwin
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denner

nameno1had-- I can't really figure out where you stand on all this (and don't really care)

You call me a racist because I say we are are all basically the same under the skin? I find that truly amusing and a telling indicator of your comprehensive ability.

You deny scientific fact in favor of ...what?

I was going to go on but you have discredited yourself enough and done a better job than I ever could have by arguing from an indefensible perspective.

IRONLUNGCANCER

Jews are alright people, I served with some in the Army, trusted 'em with my life.  Italians on the other hand... welll.....

nameno1had
denner90 wrote:

nameno1had-- I can't really figure out where you stand on all this (and don't really care)

You call me a racist because I say we are are all basically the same under the skin? I find that truly amusing and a telling indicator of your comprehensive ability.

You deny scientific fact in favor of ...what?

I was going to go on but you have discredited yourself enough and done a better job than I ever could have by arguing from an indefensible perspective.

Not wanting to recognize a people and give them the same rights as others is one of the worst forms of discrimination that has ever existed. Italy's past is well noted for its discrimination against Jews and recognizing them even as human...let alone another race...I am not going to waste any more time on you either...

denner
IRONLUNGCANCER wrote:

Jews are alright people, I served with some in the Army, trusted 'em with my life.  Italians on the other hand... welll.....

wow... I'm sorry you feel that way about Italians. I also have no problem with Jews, in fact if you had bothered to read the whole thread you would know I'm married to one, and related to more than you will ever be. By the way Mr. Bigot, it's an Irish flag.

denner
nameno1had wrote:
denner90 wrote:

nameno1had-- I can't really figure out where you stand on all this (and don't really care)

You call me a racist because I say we are are all basically the same under the skin? I find that truly amusing and a telling indicator of your comprehensive ability.

You deny scientific fact in favor of ...what?

I was going to go on but you have discredited yourself enough and done a better job than I ever could have by arguing from an indefensible perspective.

Not wanting to recognize a people and give them the same rights as others is one of the worst forms of discrimination that has ever existed. Italy's past is well noted for its discrimination against Jews and recognizing them even as human...let alone another race...I am not going to waste any more time on you either...

How in the hell am I not wanting to give any people the same rights as others? I happen to study human anthropology and know quite a bit about what it means to be human, I dare say more than you. You and Ironlungdope have revealed yourselves as the true bigots you are by calling out Italians in your hamhanded way. Like I said to him... it's an Irish flag. Now say all the bad things you want to about the Irish and prove my case.

BadHabitZZZ

We all bleed RED Blood,...

Ubik42
BadHabitZZZ wrote:

We all bleed RED Blood,...

Indeed we do! A trait we share with Chimpanzees, rodents, and the mosquito.

BadHabitZZZ
Ubik42 wrote:
BadHabitZZZ wrote:

We all bleed RED Blood,...

Indeed we do! A trait we share with Chimpanzees, rodents, and the mosquito.

 

I guess we are just the UpRight Apes then,... We all share the same planet, we all want to be loved, respected, and admired.  We all love our families,.. etc. etc. etc....

Maybe we should drop this theme,... it is borderline at best.

BadHabitZZZ

I guess we are just the UpRight Apes then,... We all share the same planet, we all want to be loved, respected, and admired.  We all love our families,.. etc. etc. etc....

Maybe we should drop this theme,... it is borderline at best.

Ubik42
TheARBChessSystem wrote:
Rainuchka wrote:

Wagner was an antisemite (as many people in Europe during 19th century). But some jews love his music, the most prominent is perhaps Barenboim. 

How about Alekhine!? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Alekhine

 

A.R.B

Wasn't, at least according to that wiki.

BadHabitZZZ

The Nazi's had his wife (jewish),..

If they had your wife and children (e.g. Paul Keres), you 'might' be inclined to play chess for them too,...

there were certainly those who did not,.. some of those paid with their lives and some of those paid with their family lives,...

walk a mile in another man's shoes before you judge him or his actions.

denner
BadHabitZZZ wrote:

I guess we are just the UpRight Apes then,... We all share the same planet, we all want to be loved, respected, and admired.  We all love our families,.. etc. etc. etc....

Maybe we should drop this theme,... it is borderline at best.

agreed

BadHabitZZZ

Goodbye,..

this is not a good subject and lends itself to bad blood, bad feelings, and bad comments,...

See you in the Afterlife,..

I want to come back as a Snow Leopard

yadan

"Many people who we think of as "Jews" are not descended from the original tribes of Israel. At one time Jews proselytized and many people who call themselves "Jews" are actually of European descent. "

Incorrect! DNA testing has proved that modern Jews are indeed descended from an ancient common ancestor.   

BadHabitZZZ

Arb,..

it is a Snow Leopard

'We/You' missed that National Geographic lesson in elementry school

Wink

RustInTime

Intellectualism is not something pursued or admired nearly as much in every culture. While in Jewish culture it often was.
 
It's really that simple.

Especially different Christian denominations have not been too big on the general development of ones intellect with ungodly hobbies such as philosophy, science, literature etc. till even the recent past. Just work hard and keep your mouth shut. Here in the Netherlands in certain areas and even in my family one can still strongly sense the remnants on this mindset with people alive today growing up in families where books were pretty much banned etc. (Currently being replaced with a happy dumb consumerist rejection of intellectualism but that's a whole other story.)

denner

excellent post!

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