There are no significant biological differences in Jews than in any other socially constructed group of humans.
So would you explain the high rate of Tay-Sachs disease in Ashkenazi Jews as being due to them having a supportive community that comes together for friends and family? Same for Neimann-Pick disease. Or Familial dysautonomia? Gaucher's disease?
Becareful, they'll show up and blame it on all on religion or lack there of...
There are no significant biological differences in Jews than in any other socially constructed group of humans.
So would you explain the high rate of Tay-Sachs disease in Ashkenazi Jews as being due to them having a supportive community that comes together for friends and family? Same for Neimann-Pick disease. Or Familial dysautonomia? Gaucher's disease?
Becareful, they'll show up and blame it on all on religion or lack there of...
Jews are inbred. That accounts for their big brains, small penises and nasty attitudes.
There are no significant biological differences in Jews than in any other socially constructed group of humans.
So would you explain the high rate of Tay-Sachs disease in Ashkenazi Jews as being due to them having a supportive community that comes together for friends and family? Same for Neimann-Pick disease. Or Familial dysautonomia? Gaucher's disease?
Non-Significant difference. Those are just hereditary traits. Nothing to do with people being superior to others. I didn't say there weren't genetic differences, but that there were no significant differences.
IE meaning that no genetic difference is responsible for an ethnic jew to be better at chess than another. To say otherwise is bad science and racist.
Honestly, skills are all explained by neuroplasticisty, and having social and cultural insentives to be proactive in different things.
There are no significant biological differences in Jews than in any other socially constructed group of humans.
So would you explain the high rate of Tay-Sachs disease in Ashkenazi Jews as being due to them having a supportive community that comes together for friends and family? Same for Neimann-Pick disease. Or Familial dysautonomia? Gaucher's disease?
Becareful, they'll show up and blame it on all on religion or lack there of...
Jews are inbred. That accounts for their big brains, small penises and nasty attitudes.
Is this a confession about all of the Jewish guys, you have dated ?
There are no significant biological differences in Jews than in any other socially constructed group of humans.
So would you explain the high rate of Tay-Sachs disease in Ashkenazi Jews as being due to them having a supportive community that comes together for friends and family? Same for Neimann-Pick disease. Or Familial dysautonomia? Gaucher's disease?
Non-Significant difference. Those are just hereditary traits. Nothing to do with people being superior to others. I didn't say there weren't genetic differences, but that there were no significant differences.
IE meaning that no genetic difference is responsible for an ethnic jew to be better at chess than another. To say otherwise is bad science and racist.
Honestly, skills are all explained by neuroplasticisty, and having social and cultural insentives to be proactive in different things.
While we can spare each other an argument over " significant", I have to say, the OP's question is sort of like asking, why Russians are so good at chess...
Are Muslims a separate race? How about different castes in India? There are many groups fanatical about breeding only among themselves, this does not constitute a racial divide. I'll grant that Middle Eastern Jews and other Arabic/Persian peoples may be genectically distinct, there you have millenia of division based on religion, but this does not spread out into other ethnicities due strictly to how they worship their god. It does not even make sense. Like I said ,skewed sample with an agenda.
It doesnt make sense because that isnt the claim. When you have to keep constructing strawmen, its usually a sign of something .
Dude, that is your claim. Your "study" claims that Jews are gentically distinct from other people such as certian racial groups are, based on their religion yet when I call you out on it you keep saying "if that were the claim" and "that isn't the claim". Well which is it? If that isn't your claim then what is?
I get so tired of that accusation. Once a people who is seperated genetically from all others, "REGARDLESS OF THE REASON", and then begin to breed amongst themselves, seperate themselves genetically. Their features become distinct amongst that of other races. After the orginal inception of the progenitors of the Jewish people and before much of the modern proselytization, the only Jews were descendants genetically of the patriarch and matriarch. There are some exceptions and yes they had to follow the religion but, the gene pool I speak of that is distinct from all others was created, despite anyone's attemtps to deny its existence.
How do you think the races that, you accept as races, became distinct in the first place ? Seperation is the answer...this is what caused the differences between them...
PS...you can practice Judiasm, without being ethnically, or hereditarily Jewish...which is to be descended from the patriarch of Israel
"Once a people who is seperated genetically from all others, "REGARDLESS OF THE REASON", and then begin to breed amongst themselves, seperate themselves genetically."
this was certianly the case thousands of years ago when the language in the next valley was as different from yours as Finnish is from Chinese, and 100 miles was a huge distance, but in the modern world religion is NOT a breeding barrier. The rest of your post about matriarch and patriarch is not scientific.
why most of the great chess players are Jews? cuz nobody else wants to play chess, now that there's so many Jews playing it! With the help of antisemitism they've elimintated much of the competition!
Are Muslims a separate race? How about different castes in India? There are many groups fanatical about breeding only among themselves, this does not constitute a racial divide. I'll grant that Middle Eastern Jews and other Arabic/Persian peoples may be genectically distinct, there you have millenia of division based on religion, but this does not spread out into other ethnicities due strictly to how they worship their god. It does not even make sense. Like I said ,skewed sample with an agenda.
It doesnt make sense because that isnt the claim. When you have to keep constructing strawmen, its usually a sign of something .
Dude, that is your claim. Your "study" claims that Jews are gentically distinct from other people such as certian racial groups are, based on their religion yet when I call you out on it you keep saying "if that were the claim" and "that isn't the claim". Well which is it? If that isn't your claim then what is?
I get so tired of that accusation. Once a people who is seperated genetically from all others, "REGARDLESS OF THE REASON", and then begin to breed amongst themselves, seperate themselves genetically. Their features become distinct amongst that of other races. After the orginal inception of the progenitors of the Jewish people and before much of the modern proselytization, the only Jews were descendants genetically of the patriarch and matriarch. There are some exceptions and yes they had to follow the religion but, the gene pool I speak of that is distinct from all others was created, despite anyone's attemtps to deny its existence.
How do you think the races that, you accept as races, became distinct in the first place ? Seperation is the answer...this is what caused the differences between them...
PS...you can practice Judiasm, without being ethnically, or hereditarily Jewish...which is to be descended from the patriarch of Israel
"Once a people who is seperated genetically from all others, "REGARDLESS OF THE REASON", and then begin to breed amongst themselves, seperate themselves genetically."
this was certianly the case thousands of years ago when the language in the next valley was as different from yours as Finnish is from Chinese, and 100 miles was a huge distance, but in the modern world religion is NOT a breeding barrier. The rest of your post about matriarch and patriarch is not scientific.
So you think they have already bred away their likeness in these modern times. They tend to stick to themselves. They are against the idea of being diluted or not being accepted by their peers and families. Also, every culture has one to who all of the rest are attributed. What is so unscientific about that ? It is quite obivous and common knowledge. It may not support many humanistic or scientific theories, but it is no less valid simply because, it appears to be a way to get rid of "a problem"...Hitler's scientists tried it...failed too...
Races as we know them are strictly surface features and would not effect one's ability to play chess. And besides it take tens of thousands of years of strict genetic isolation such as different continents or extreme distances to create a racial gene pool. One religious sect living among other humans in a society could not form a distinct racial gene pool. To claim such is to demonstrate one's lack of understanding of the evolutionary process.
I sense a troll thread.
"It may not support many humanistic or scientific theories, but it is no less valid simply because, it appears to be a way to get rid of "a problem"...Hitler's scientists tried it...failed too."
What are you talking about? what problem? they tried what? your post poses more questions than answers.
Races as we know them are strictly surface features and would not effect one's ability to play chess. And besides it take tens of thousands of years of strict genetic isolation such as different continents or extreme distances to create a racial gene pool. One religious sect living among other humans in a society could not form a distinct racial gene pool. To claim such is to demonstrate one's lack of understanding of the evolutionary process.
So things that are distinct all the way to the smallest parts of the DNA are merely surface features...sounds like your idealogies are a bit superficial...take your unscientifically based racisim else where
There is a difference between Ashkenazi Jews who are direct descendants of Semitic people from Jerusalem and European Jews who have lived in countries such as Poland and Russia for generations. In the latter instance they have admixture with Slavic populations, that's why many of them look more phenotypically European than Semitic
Anyone who reads or actually has a genuine interest in history type stuff read Aleppo Codex, M Friedman.. Very easy read and excellent material regarding the Ashkenazi Jews. Arguably the Jewish religions most valued text the twist at the end regarding the fate of the codices and current provenance is worth the days read..
Races as we know them are strictly surface features and would not effect one's ability to play chess. And besides it take tens of thousands of years of strict genetic isolation such as different continents or extreme distances to create a racial gene pool. One religious sect living among other humans in a society could not form a distinct racial gene pool. To claim such is to demonstrate one's lack of understanding of the evolutionary process.
So you and what council decided how long it takes to separate a gene pool to the point of racial seperation ? No one can prove without a doubt that 10,000 years have even passed in human existence. There are no written records to support it. All of the scientific methods used to date things, have no basis for which to prove all possible events and the passage of a said amount of time.
All it takes is seperation and inbreeding for genetic differences to occur...that has already been proven, by science and life's presentation of it...look around...
It doesn't matter if they're Sephardic or Ashkenazi, converts are just as Jewish as everyone else and the Jewish Lifecycle Book makes this clear. So it doesn't matter if Ashkenazim have no genetic link to Israel, as they were converted in order to remain neutral from Christian and Muslim kingdoms. If they converted to Christianity they'd be targets for Muslims, and vice versa.
nameno1had wrote " No one can prove without a doubt that 10,000 years have even passed in human existence. There are no written records to support it."
well that will save me some reading in the future, lol. Science has proven beyond all measure of certianty that humans have been around longer then 10,000 years. Unless you are not counting works of stone, clay and cloth. According to the religous texts I've read inbreading was rampant among the earliest of recorded man... and how did the folks over in Sumatra have such clear knowledge of the outer solar system. So many questions...
nameno1had wrote " No one can prove without a doubt that 10,000 years have even passed in human existence. There are no written records to support it."
well that will save me some reading in the future, lol. Science has proven beyond all measure of certianty that humans have been around longer then 10,000 years. Unless you are not counting works of stone, clay and cloth. According to the religous texts I've read inbreading was rampant among the earliest of recorded man... and how did the folks over in Sumatra have such clear knowledge of the outer solar system. So many questions...
Show me one piece of scientific evidence that proves that humans have existed for more than 10,000 years, that doesn't have any possible flaw...I have been looking for nearly 30 years for one and still can't find it...
Look harder.
Not only do we have evidence of how long humans existed, but the genetic science and fossil record also trace our lineage at least as far back as a certain common ancestor with rats during the dinosaur period. There are also many transitional fossils from the monkey we've evolved from to us. Lucy for example is one such transitional fossil.
There are no significant biological differences in Jews than in any other socially constructed group of humans.
So would you explain the high rate of Tay-Sachs disease in Ashkenazi Jews as being due to them having a supportive community that comes together for friends and family? Same for Neimann-Pick disease. Or Familial dysautonomia? Gaucher's disease?