Why no notation for stalemte?

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It is bugs me like hell there is no notation for stalemate. Jus sayin'

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It would be the same as draw. 1/2 - 1/2

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kco wrote:

It would be the same as draw. 1/2 - 1/2

A draw isn't necessarily a stalemate. It can be from perpetual check, "positional draw", three-fold repitition, or draw by agreement.

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In the paper it usually say "draw by stalemate"

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All stalemates are draws. Not all draws are stalemates. Though the net result is the same.

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Scythian741 a écrit :

It is bugs me like hell there is no notation for stalemate. Jus sayin'

 

8th line in your list, is the correct annotation

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Maybe S for Stalemate? Or possibly halmos tombstone.

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"1/2-1/2 draw by stalemate" looks good to me. I wish the newspapers and books tell us how they win whether is by resignation or time.

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PaulEChess wrote:
Scythian741 wrote:

Maybe S for Stalemate? Or possibly halmos tombstone.

I'd use the vertical lines from the checkmate. Similar to this "//". Seems to correspond with the checkmate symbol.

This oughta be a candidate for "Stuff non chess players say" hehe

Btw, I like the twitter symbol or the fence symbol for checkmate. Wonder how it got started.

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And they're missing the four leaf clover sign, to denote that the guy was just lucky.

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Why not for 3-fold or 50 moves or draw by agreement?

This makes more sense because it may not be immediately obvious when playing over the score.

Also a symbol for loss on time.

It seems the only reason you want a symbol for stalemate is because it happens to have the word "mate" in it.

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lets play some games instead of bugging your brain in a way that it want to go to a vacation

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I think it should just be "=". "=" is an evaluative term, so does it ever actually show up in the move list? Perhaps if the player is writing notes to himself during an otb game? Otherwise it could denote all forms of legally forced draw, like repetition, 50 moves, or stalemate. I assume draw by agreement would be the exception, since it's a draw that isn't inherent in the position, so to speak.

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Finally a worthwhile topic!

I suggest for stalemte

 

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1/2-1/2

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I really like this idea, although my preference would be something that people could type on a normal keyboard, especially text like the vertical bars idea or "sm". I've missed having such a symbol in my own annotations since it makes the situation clear at a glance.

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