Why the Bishop has cut on it's head?

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chessspy1
robbie_1969 wrote:

le fou, the fool, presumably because it can only see things from a single perspective, its own?  Is it uncompromising single mindedness or unadulterated narcissism? A strength or a weakness, or both?

We, (my wife, Milissa Ellison, (historian, economist, etc etc) and I have written an article which suggests a reason why the French call the bishop 'fool'.

In order to understand this one needs a little history.

The game of chess was changed to something like our modern game sometime in the 15th c. That is to say, allowing the pawn to move two squares on its first move (and consequently the en-passant rule, (the bane of many a tyro)) and the so-called "mad queen" (which previously could move in only a very restricted way). At this time in France and elsewhere things were very different (I recommend reading a good biog of Louis 14th for a flavour of this time (although he was later of course)). Anyway, to get to the point, the clergy were a corrupt lot by and large and not much liked so the French did not want a 'religious' icon in their sets and so,called this piece  le fou (the fool) representing the fool who (often a dwarf or hunchback or simpleton) was kept in court to amuse the king. This was, of course, a swipe at these corrupt bishops and the like.

France was Catholic (officially) and the treatment of Protestant groups such as the Huguenots was worse than deplorable (worsted only by the Nazis centuries later)

chessspy1
chessspy1 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:

le fou, the fool, presumably because it can only see things from a single perspective, its own?  Is it uncompromising single mindedness or unadulterated narcissism? A strength or a weakness, or both?

We, (my wife, Milissa Ellison, (historian, economist, etc etc) and I have written an article which suggests a reason why the French call the bishop 'fool'.

In order to understand this one needs a little history.

The game of chess was changed to something like our modern game sometime in the 15th c. That is to say, allowing the pawn to move two squares on its first move (and consequently the en-passant rule, (the bane of many a tyro)) and the so-called "mad queen" (which previously could move in only a very restricted way). At this time in France and elsewhere things were very different to the society in which we now live (I recommend reading a good biog of Louis 14th for a flavour of this time (although he was later of course)). Anyway, to get to the point, the clergy were a corrupt lot by and large and not much liked so the French did not want a 'religious' icon in their sets and so,called this piece  le fou (the fool) representing the fool who (often a dwarf or hunchback or simpleton) was kept in court to amuse the king. This was, of course, a swipe at these corrupt bishops and the like.

France was Catholic (officially) and the treatment of Protestant groups such as the Huguenots was worse than deplorable (worsted only by the Nazis centuries later)

 

Linshyy
robbie_1969 wrote:

Actually Rook comes from the Persian Rukh, chariot and is mostly known in Hindi as hati (elephant) it makes no sense for the bishop a rather long range and fast moving piece to be represented by an elephant.  I have a set from Tunisia where the rooks are elephants and bishops are represented as pillars of a Greek style temple.

Actually, bishops moved differently back when they were called elephants (two squares diagonally and being able to jump over pieces, like modern knights), you are probably just using the rooks as bishops with your set. Makes much more sense for the rooks to be the "pillars of greek style temple" and the elephants to be the bishops

quadibloc

Although the Bishop resembles a Bishop's mitre, it also resembles the hat of a mediaeval jester, and so the piece was called a Fool in French-speaking countries. This is even more pronounced in the pre-Staunton shape. So, yes, the Bishop's shape developed from a chess piece that wasn't originally intended to look like a Bishop.

aeonsleo

In the Indian version of chess,  the Bishop is the warrior on a camel and the piece represents the camel's head and it's long foot.  There is no queen that fights in a battle,  the piece represents the commander of the army,  the most powerful person.  The rook is a warrior on an elephant,  the piece represents the foot of an elephant

Laneeeeeee
president_max wrote:

I know most of you can't handle the truth but those who have grown up with sesame street know that the bishop was modelled after Grover looking up.

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blueemu
Morgwic wrote:

Actually, bishops moved differently back when they were called elephants ... being able to jump over pieces...

Ah, yes... modelled on those athletic elephants, always leaping and bounding about like gazelles!

Bzoing! Bzoing! ... I'm an elephant!... Bzoing!

NochosO
I think its a ceremonial hat called a miter
snoozyman
My little nephew says that’s the mouth 👄
behzadehd

I think bishop in chess represents an elephant trunk rather than bishop mitre because of  that pointy thing above one of two parts. besides, beshop mitre has two equal part but in chess one of them is bigger like elephant trunk anatomy. I'm not sure yet.


behzadehd

a bishop of the church doesn't participate in war in battlefield. but the chess game is a real battlefield with pawns, knights and etc

zazmat
Guys growing up we were always taught of bishops as camels as they are equivalent to horses in the desert, and I believe the rook was considered an elephant. Definitely enjoying the discussion here. A bishop has two humps and a cut represents a V made by the humps
Shoveller762
Sheesh. Ten guys, eleven theories. I’ll add some more:

When the game was brought to Arabia from India, they added the cut to represent the Persian gulf separating the regions.

It was a minaret to the Arabs, but the Catholics split it down the middle to represent the superiority of Rome. Later, a priest from Marseilles developed the mitre from the knight piece, but in practicality, it put the wearer off-balance so they settled for the alfil which, by association was renamed the Bishop.

Yes, it does represent the elephant, just not that end.

Woodworker Stefanos Dekeipoli was designing a chess set for the Ottomans, and, by accident, made a wrong cut. To cover for his mistake, he launched a vast conspiracy to bribe other set-makers into propagating the slice, and here we are today.

It held a small message, hand written before each game, one bishop stating the players band and federation, the other stating the player’s ELO. When chess.com launched their game servers in ‘07, they found that screens were too small to display the info on the bishop, so they displayed it near the player’s avatar, the trend caught on in OTB, and several governments, including the USA and Russia, are working on legislation to remove the cut for good.
Jezzer_K
I’ve always thought the bishop kinda like a pp tbh. You can’t unsee it now.
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AussieMatey

Now here's the real reason - the Knight always wanted to be nearer to the centre of the board to get more of the attention and recognition, and the Bishop completely resented this, so as you can see, when they're sitting on their squares ready to play, maybe half an hour to an hour before the game, those 2 have been involved in way too many fights and scuffles over the decades.

DreamscapeHorizons

Because it was a bad bishop.

AussieMatey

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Kowarenai

bishops look like frowning depressed pieces 💔