Will computers ever solve chess?

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edilio134

---------> Secondly, your jesus offered no solution to suffering

and compared to you is nothing.

Today is the red pill day ?

Rishabh_Yadav_7

yes!

ponz111

he doesn't! He just pretends he knows...

ponz111

The answer to the question of this forum is....."No"

ponz111

He may think of himself as a mind reader but he is anything but a mind reader.Undecided He is good at Ad hominem however.Laughing

troy7915
blacktower01 wrote:

 

and compared to you is nothing.

 

 He’s gone and I’m nothing. He was nothing, too, but at least I’m alive.

troy7915
s23bog wrote:
troy7915 escribió:

The point is that you don’t question whatever jesus was supposed to have said. You just repeat like a robot words you have heard or read. They are not your discovery. Therefore, they are worthless. Just a dubious interpretation of a mind caught in suffering.

 A mind caught in suffering cannot see. It is too noisy to see clearly.

 

Secondly, your jesus offered no solution to suffering, which is why nobody has ever ended it by reading the bible.

 

What makes you think you know what I question?

 

  You question nothing in these matters. A superstitious mind like yours is an obedient mind, a fearful mind, whose’s too afraid to question. It cannot question something which gives it a mental shelter. 

 

If you are not free from belief you cannot question belief.

troy7915
ponz111 wrote:

he doesn't! He just pretends he knows...

 

 That is your domain: you pretend to know the result of a perfect chess game. In reality, you just don’t know, only pretend to know.

 

 In my case, I said it above: Scott cannot question belief if he is a believer. That’s how I know. End of story.

troy7915
s23bog wrote:

I think Troy may be doing quite a bit of pretending.  Perhaps he fancies himself a spy, of sorts.

 

  When you become aware of the general patterns of the human mind, it’s not a matter of guessing or spying. People think their thought is somewhat secret and they can hide behind it. But thought follows the same patterns for everyone of us, therefore you can tell what was in the brain of someone who said something.

 For instance, last night, here in Palm Springs, someone reminded me of what Bob Dylan said in one of his songs—that everyone suffers, that we all suffer. And it is easy to see what was in his head: he accepted suffering as a fact of life, and by that song he implied that there will always be suffering, no matter what. In other words, there is no solution to suffering. Might as well sing about it!

  Someone who knows the solution to suffering would never have composed that song.

troy7915
ponz111 wrote:

He may think of himself 

 

  I don’t. This is the whole point of what I’m saying. And you keep forgetting that there’s no one to attack. Since you don’t see it, it becomes a thing of memory: you must always remember it. Of course, without understanding it, it has little value.

troy7915

81 right now. And dry, of course. A little windy these days.

troy7915
s23bog wrote:

Did you need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows?

 

   My first reaction was to read the car thermometer, since I was out. Then I added other details.

troy7915
s23bog wrote:

You may be in the US, but your loyalties lie elsewhere.  That is ... if you have any loyalty at all.

 

  Are you asking me if I’m nationalistic, if I’m loyal to a piece of land or a specific government or a specific authority? The answer suggests itself , as we say in chess.

  You keep looking for conspiracy theories—the subject of a frightened mind—or think someone’s after you, for that declaration of war of yours.

pawn8888

I was thinking that for a perfect game both players have to play perfectly. I'd like to see some proof that computers haven't solved chess, like a win by black over a top computer.

troy7915
s23bog wrote:

It always struck me as a bit ironic that the FBI ... the one who will charge you if you lie to them ... is an anagram of fib.  What do you think Troy?  Is the FBI full of fibbers?

 

  As long as we are not free from the main illusion, we all lie to ourselves every second of our lives. Remember the masks? As Shakespeare wrote, we’re all actors. But like Dylan, he thought there is no other way.

troy7915
s23bog wrote:

When speaking of Truth, or trying to get to the bottom of it, maybe you think you sometimes need to lie to get to it.

 

The means and the end are the same. Start with a non-truth and that would be the end result.

troy7915

Propaganda and recruiting is your domain.

troy7915
s23bog wrote:
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s23bog wrote:

Did you need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows?

 

   My first reaction was to read the car thermometer, since I was out. Then I added other details.

It was a reference to a Dylan lyric.  I don't think the meaning really has much to do with the climate.  Maybe you can look it up.

 

  It seems like your mind is elsewhere when you talk/write. Floating in the religious bubble.

Isabel444

No they will not, imagine a road with three paths with an equal outcome, its like saying which equal path will have a better outcome? (safety/speed) they're all equaly sound. Its the same principle to chess, all equal roads.

troy7915
s23bog wrote:
troy7915 escribió:
s23bog wrote:
troy7915 escribió:
s23bog wrote:

Did you need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows?

 

   My first reaction was to read the car thermometer, since I was out. Then I added other details.

It was a reference to a Dylan lyric.  I don't think the meaning really has much to do with the climate.  Maybe you can look it up.

 

  It seems like your mind is elsewhere when you talk/write. Floating in the religious bubble.

Most famously, its lyric "you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" was the inspiration for the name of the American radical left group the Weathermen, a breakaway from the Students for a Democratic Society. In a 2007 study of legal opinions and briefs that found Bob Dylan was quoted by judges and lawyer more than any other songwriter, "you don't need a weatherman..." was distinguished as the line most often cited.

 

Source

 

  That’s understood, but who cares? It doesn’t apply to that exchange. You asked about the weather in Palm Springs and I answered. 

 Then you talk about ‘loyalties’...You seem lost.