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Will technology ruin the game of chess?
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did technology already ruin chess?
polygamous_king wrote:
Is there some sort of suspicion that chess engines may be currently used in tournments for more than just preparing counter-intuitive opening possibilities, like someone with a accomplice who uses the engine and then communicates with the player through some sort of "mentalist" method (not "psychic", but the tricks used by them or shows)?
Or perhaps even something like having some sort of gadget that translates the engine's suggestion on a tactile Morse code/Braille system of sorts, and this gadget would be somewhere inside the player's pants or something. It could be just a receiver/transmitter of the Morse/Braille, or even carry the engine itself, if someone figures a way to have an unnoticeable input interface with the thing, which could even be a separate gadget that communicates via radio. Something like a 8x8 series of hidden buttons on the guy's pants, over the tigh, so as he just rests his hands over his tights, he can "type" the opponent's moves, just first and ending square (the engine would know the corresponding pieces as it's redoing the match), in what wouldn't be easy to distinguish from just normal fidgeting. That could also be the receiver end, perhap's it's easier to learn to feel some light needling on an 8x8 grid on your leg than to learn to feel Morse code, and Morse code itself.
It seems far fetched, but I'm not sure if it's something that wouldn't ever be tried. I'd not be surprised if in the near future there were some sort of airport security type of inspections for tournments, and even cavity searches depending on the prize/tournment level.
its not far fetched they do it in vegas were the punishment is much higher, they also did that in private poker games where someone came in and shot them in the face.
Chess is the ultimate place for such crime, much money and no punishment.
Criminals would be nuts to be not involved in chess cheating.
I think it would rather unlogical to assume it doesnt already happen.
ofc the tigh is a bit far fetched but your first ideas seemed very reasonable.
just imagine for trafficking something illegal over the boarder they risk 20 years in prison and they do it for 5000. At least according to the documentary i saw, ok the sum might have been made up. But even if they did it for double the amount or more, still chess seems to be the perfect and i mean it the very best place for crimes.
I cant imagine any crime that has a better risk reward ratio, seriously if there is a perfect crime it must be cheating in chess.
At least thats my honest opinion and i know ofc i could be wrong.
skakmadurinn wrote:
The funny thing about "lol" is that when someone write it he/she is probably not laughing out loud.
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I certainly am not. lol
(just a cheap, wee sardonic smile)
Jul 13, 2013
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#87
I don't think anything will ever ruin chess. It's been around for many centuries and has survied and at time thrived. It is like the stock market it has it up and downs but is never killed off.
As far as the problem of cheating in chess i think it is overstated. There are more players who use thayt as an excuse for why they lost then there is actual cheating. The main thing that stops most players from cheating is not technology or even morals but the fact that it is much more exciting pitting your own skills against another player than watching a computer create moves for you. I can think of few activities that would be as boring.
Online chess is not as exciting to most players as actually playing face to face however it is vastly more convient. If i want to play a game at 2 a.m. I don't know a single person i could call up and arrange a match with but turn on my computer and there are thousands of potenial opponents.
I do have chess friends who i can arrange a match with during the day or early evening but it is always a hit or miss thing. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. It is very nice to have a ready opponent available online.
gimmewuchagot wrote:
HotBoxRes wrote:
I believe chess will be "solved" by computers soon enough. The Rybka team has already solved the King's Gambit Accepted (3. be2 is the only move that doesn't lose by force against perfect play, if I remember correctly).
Eventually all the openings will be solved. But we'll still play because we're humans and we don't play perfectly, even if the solutions have already been found.
Haha. That was an April Fools' joke! And I'm not kidding!
No, computers can't ruin the game of chess. Does any PERSON have a powerful enough brain to calculate and evaluate positions like a computer? No.
Carlson and Anand do.
TetsuoShima wrote:
did technology already ruin chess?
Remember Hydra from 2005?
666AAA666 wrote:
[quote]I believe chess will be "solved" by computers soon enough.[/quote]
Thats true. Soon or later.
But its also true that soon or later our technology will create a human being also.
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I think money can ruin chess easier than technology.
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ChezBoy wrote:
Not for everyone (Old people.)
Yes, for everyone...unless they are sticks in the mud and refuse to learn anything new...which is not the fault of technology.
It's too late.
technology has ruined chess.
The 'end' or 'destruction'.
ChezBoy wrote:
I hope you are wrong.
I agree it will be a sad day.
Jul 13, 2013
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#98
the 7 man lomonosov tablebases are the largest that exist and creating those was an enormous collaborative effort, or so I've read, you can access those via aquarium (and only via aquarium). you can make your own tablebases for select positions above 6 pieces via a few select programs but these tablebases take space and time to make. as there are more iterations in chess than atoms in the universe, unlikely that we'll ever see a 32-man tablebase unless we can redefine physics somehow xD.
'Ruin' does mean 'destroy' yes.
I do not personally think technology will 'ruin' chess. It does 'cheapen/denigrate' it however.
Chess was originally conceived to be a contest between 2-individuals without outside help or assistance.
666AAA666 wrote:
netzach wrote:
The 'end' or 'destruction'.
Disaster? U really talk about disaster or u use it metaphorically?
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