Nemo96 wrote:
1k+ blitz games played and still having a rating of 544 eludes me
lol.Kasporov Jr would destroy this guy lol.
would playing obscure openings throw grandmasters off guard
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majimba wrote:
rowlf is seriously my favorite muppet...
Mine too. 
The first grandmaster I ever played was a former United States over the board Champion and I won playing this obscure opening:
Jun 16, 2014
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ponz111 skrev:
The first grandmaster I ever played was a former United States over the board Champion and I won playing this obscure opening:
I think the danish gambit is quite strong especially in live ches.
This was not the danish gambit this was the more obsurce opening where both sides develop a knight in the opening.
Danish Gambit is
TomHaegin wrote:
Not very likely but can happen once in a century I suppose.
Karpov lost once with white against Tony Miles when they opened 1 e4 a5 (or was it ...b5?). But Miles was a GM too, so he knew what he was doing.
Miles played 1...a6
Jun 16, 2014
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#29
It's hardly 'obscure'. It's called the Goring Gambit (the 'o' has an umlaut, but sorry, I can't do umlauts), named after a C19 German player called Goring. It's in MCO 15, on pages 138-140. It's not much played in elite-level chess, mainly because it's like a lot of C19 and earlier gambits in that B can equalise fairly quickly and easily, usually by playing ...d5 at the right time. There's also a drawing line in the Gambit Declined variation, devised by Capablanca.
crisy wrote:
It's hardly 'obscure'. It's called the Goering Gambit (sorry, I can't do umlauts), named after a C19 player called Goering (nothing to do with the Luftwaffe). It's in MCO 15, on pages 138-140. It's not much played in elite-level chess, mainly because it's like a lot of C19 and earlier gambits in that B can equalise fairly quickly and easily, usually by playing ...d5 at the right time. There's also a drawing line in the Gambit Declined vaA GM does not sriation, devised by Capablanca.
A GM does not wish a draw vs a master or expert. At the time the game was played it was quite obsure to sac two pawns in an opening vs a GM.
Has anyone ever heard of playing an opening which has the sacrifice of two pawns in the opening [other than the Danish Gambit] against a GM ?[and winning]
tigerprowl wrote:
I always whip out an early rook to a3, a6, h3 or h6. Both Anand and Carlsen had to forfeit on disconnection. Nakamura on the other had, lasted 8 moves until I played Bb2, then Ba1. He said, "I can't play this Aronian crazy stuff" and walked off in a tantrum like Kasparov.
funny post here
No. Playing obscure openings won't help you , especially against a GM , IM or even an FM. They prepare before any tournament so they're ready for an anything .
ViktorHNielsen wrote:
TomHaegin wrote:
Not very likely but can happen once in a century I suppose.
Karpov lost once with white against Tony Miles when they opened 1 e4 a5 (or was it ...b5?). But Miles was a GM too, so he knew what he was doing.
It was 1. e4 a6!+, and is annotated on chessgames.com: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1068157
Playing 1. a4 can be deadly against super-GMs. At least if it's the worlds blitz championsship, and your name is Magnus Carlsen: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1671724
any explaination as to why these openers work well? also, what are the downsides?
Jun 16, 2014
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it doesn't appear to be the goring gambit
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1007472
the goring gambit only gambits one pawn.
Estragon wrote:
tubebender wrote:
No.
Quite right. There are good reasons NOT to try this.
1. Playing obscure openings throws both sides on their natural abilities. Do you really think your natural ability can compete with a GM?
1a. If so, put down the bong and step slowly away from the chessboard and nobody gets hurt.
2. Obscure openings aren't obscure because they are ancient secrets guarded by special orders of monks. They are obscure because they generally speaking SUCK relative to mainline choices. So you are playing a superior player, but choosing to play an inferior line in most cases. Does that make sense to you? If so, see 1a above.
Do I spot numbers here, Estragon? 
You forgot the yes or no part, if yes go to 3, if no, forget it!
Jun 16, 2014
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#36
It's totally possible to surprise a grandmaster (Alisa Melekhina is fairly proud of her preparation-coup against Irina Krush in the US women's championship), but it's like a high school freshman in pre-calculus trying to blow a mathemetician's mind with an algebra problem. Yeah, GMs have seen the 1.b4 one before, and they aren't going to faceplant on the table and say "what ever shall I do against this ingenious first move????" Whether or not they have a prepared system against it (I'm sure some do and some don't) they'll probably breathe a sigh of relief because it's considered theoretically dubious.
Jun 16, 2014
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#37
bobbyOK, the double pawn sac line is in MCO 15, p.139, column 3. Not that it much matters what it's called!
I found the opening years ago, in a little book called The Guardian Book of Chess, by Leonard Barden (The Guardian is a UK newspaper).
It could throw them off guard optentially. However, it's unlikely the 'surprise value' you gain with the obscure opening will outweight the theoretical value that you throw away by playing it.
So all considered you will most likely be handing a greater advantage to the grandmaster than they originally had. But their play would naturally be slightly weaker in strange positions they are unfamiliar with.
rowlf is seriously my favorite muppet...