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Without using the Internet, can anyone answer this middle of the road Mathematical Equation? 

 

Two quantities a and b are said to be in the golden ratio φ if:

\frac{a+b}{a} = \frac{a}{b} = \varphi\,.

This equation unambiguously defines φ.

The fraction on the left can be converted to

1 + \frac{b}{a} = 1 + \frac{1}{\varphi}.

Multiplying through by φ produces

\varphi + 1 = \varphi^2,

which can be rearranged to

{\varphi}^2 - \varphi - 1 = 0.

The only positive solution to this quadratic equation is.......?

 

If your answer is correct. I will believe you.

Although there is a hidden meaning that if solved would be far beyond the above average thought process.

Are you game?

George1st 

 

 

 

 

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φ can be easily found using the quadratic formula, as you pointed out.

It also makes an interesting irrational base. I don't think it has much practical use, but it does have at least one terminating expansion for every integer and repeating expansion for every rational number. For example, 6 = 1010.0001φ.

The golden ratio is more interesting, though, for its relationship to the Fibonacci numbers. In particular,

Where F(k) is the kth Fibonacci number (F(0) = 0, F(1) = 1). This follows directly from Binet's formula for Fibonacci numbers.


Actually, the golden ratio is pretty interesting in general. You should read the rest of that article; there's a lot in there.

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Eebster wrote:

φ can be easily found using the quadratic formula, as you pointed out.

It also makes an interesting irrational base. I don't think it has much practical use, but it does have at least one terminating expansion for every integer and repeating expansion for every rational number. For example, 6 = 1010.0001φ.

The golden ratio is more interesting, though, for its relationship to the Fibonacci numbers. In particular,

 

Where F(k) is the kth Fibonacci number (F(0) = 0, F(1) = 1). This follows directly from Binet's formula for Fibonacci numbers.


Actually, the golden ratio is pretty interesting in general. You should read the rest of that article; there's a lot in there.


Obviously I'm not without sarcasm myself. 

Still...Not a bad answer.

But what is the true question?

George1st 

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Nuh uh

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George1st wrote:

But what is the true question?


Good question

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Eebster wrote:
George1st wrote:

But what is the true question?


Good question


HHHmmmmmmm.......!

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Questions are easy.

Answers are more difficult.

Correct answers... damn near impossible.

It seems that these days precision passes as accuracy.

And while that may pass as a precise observation, is it indeed accurate?

Furthermore, is accurate synonymous with correct?

Is correct equivalent to truth?

See? I told you questions were easy.

Show me your truth and I'll show you mine.

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Writch wrote:

Questions are easy.

Answers are more difficult.

Correct answers... damn near impossible.

It seems that these days precision passes as accuracy.

And while that may pass as a precise observation, is it indeed accurate?

Furthermore, is accurate synonymous with correct?

Is correct equivalent to truth?

See? I told you questions were easy.

Show me your truth and I'll show you mine.


Thank you for all your time and effort. Greatly appreciated.

You are missing the point. Try to think the opposite and I would truly enjoy hearing from you again.

Sincerely Yours,

George1st 

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My point is that there is no point to be missed.

Opposites meet to be neutralized (i.e. ad nihilum)- not to be compressed into a singularity.

Thanks for the perpetual posting machine,

Writch

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Eebster wrote:
Writch wrote:
Sadsongster wrote:

Naked Truth never blushes.


Only those that ate of its forbidden fruit realized the shame of their hubris.


Add that to the list of things that bother me in Genesis.


I wonder, is it unreasonable that my same-said list is longer than the chapter itself?

And yet... I've another list of the things I like about it.

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Writch wrote:
Eebster wrote:
Writch wrote:
Sadsongster wrote:

Naked Truth never blushes.


Only those that ate of its forbidden fruit realized the shame of their hubris.


Add that to the list of things that bother me in Genesis.


I wonder, is it unreasonable that my same-said list is longer than the chapter itself?

It's a book, not a chapter, but no, that is not unreasonable.

And yet... I've another list of the things I like about it.


My list of these is very short.

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Writch wrote:

Questions are easy.

Answers are more difficult.

Correct answers... damn near impossible.

It seems that these days precision passes as accuracy.

And while that may pass as a precise observation, is it indeed accurate?

Furthermore, is accurate synonymous with correct?

Is correct equivalent to truth?

See? I told you questions were easy.

Show me your truth and I'll show you mine.


Writch? May I have the utmost pleasure in sharing this joyous occasion. Thankyou for answering the question so accurately. Whether it's the truth or not, we mere mortals will never know. 

Well said, you have made my month. I truly believed that not a single person was going to answer the question but so accurately. I even put my hat on for you so that I could take it off for you.

Thankyou,

LEGEND.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes I do understand everyone that there are obviously other answers.

But it was my game. Ok!

Sincerely Yours,

George1st 

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lol

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George1st wrote:

Without using the Internet, can anyone answer this middle of the road Mathematical Equation?

 

Two quantities a and b are said to be in the golden ratio φ if:

 

This equation unambiguously defines φ.

The fraction on the left can be converted to

Multiplying through by φ produces

which can be rearranged to

The only positive solution to this quadratic equation is.......?

 

If your answer is correct. I will believe you.

Although there is a hidden meaning that if solved would be far beyond the above average thought process.

Are you game?

George1st 

 

 

 

 


 i dont have a clue what you guys are talking about, perhaps you would feel the same if I add something to the golden rule...

what if position had a role to play at any moment in time...and that if you do not count that into your formula, that it might have no meaning????

Maybe its the breakthrough that would turn gold into platinum


Laughing
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fireballz wrote:
i dont have a clue what you guys are talking about

QFT

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it mean "Quoted For Truth" ("qft"), a label originally used on Internet forums when someone quotes a debated statement, thereby ensuring that the original statement cannot be edited or deleted by the person being quoted. Later, used merely as a indication of agreement or support with another message...

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i think we caused enough trouble here, let me check out the other threads

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Also: Quit Feeding Trolls
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fireballz wrote:

it mean "Quoted For Truth" ("qft"), a label originally used on Internet forums when someone quotes a debated statement, thereby ensuring that the original statement cannot be edited or deleted by the person being quoted. Later, used merely as a indication of agreement or support with another message...


And sometimes used to indicate the irony in statements which appear to contradict, supersede, or render irrelevant the remainder of a post.

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I have no idea when it comes to Maths. Just thought I'd throw something off the net in and see what happens. lol

George1st