Black can castle queenside (it doesn't matter that the rook is crossing a square that is attacked) but not kingside (it does matter that the king is crossing such a square). Usual disclaimers about the king and rook not having moved.
Blacks can Castle in this position?
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Yeah black can castle the queen side, but not on the king side, the reason behind it is that the rook is blocking the path of castle, on the queen side the bishop is too blocking the path of castling but the thing is the bishop is not blocking where the king is gonna land after castling ie. c8 but if the bishop is moved to c7 then the castling is not possible on either sides.
Thanks, Gil-Gandel!
I have understand that matter is king and queen sides?
Its always and everywhere was?
Assuming that Black's king has not moved previously, nor has the queen's rook, castling queenside is permitted as Gil-Gandel points out. The rook may cross a controlled square (or leave an attacked square); the king may not.
Kingside castling is impossible under the present circumstances, even if neither Black's king and king's rook have moved.
Thanks, mastermind_3!
Ok, the Kings final position is matter.
Thanks, Tercarte!
If this is about me, my King just is successful, my Queen lovely, my courtiers and soldiers are subtle!
Most of all I like of computer chess - can not make illegal moves!
Tercarte wrote:
Assuming it is also Black's move.
That the OP has a blitz rating of 1400 after hundreds of games and still is asking basic questions about the rules is interesting. Some players study chess for years and never break 1000.
How can one study the game for years and not break 1000 ?! Surely this isnt true .... ??
Intssed it is interesting that you bring this topic up. The way I learned to play the game, and I learned from someone who played in tournaments a long time ago, Black cannot castle in the above diagram. Specifically: if any of the squares inbetween the King and castle are under attack one cannot castle. Nowadays most everyone seems in agreement that in the example you've listed it is fine for the castle to pass over the attacked Queen-side square. I always play by the rules that my opponent is comfortable with.
Yes, SPARTANEMESIS. But playing sometimes I was a surprised. Today, watching this game, it was sure.
novalsi wrote:
Reb wrote:
Tercarte wrote:
Assuming it is also Black's move.
That the OP has a blitz rating of 1400 after hundreds of games and still is asking basic questions about the rules is interesting. Some players study chess for years and never break 1000.
How can one study the game for years and not break 1000 ?! Surely this isnt true .... ??
You have too much faith in people, my friend.
There is certainly something wrong with their way of studying or their brain. 1000 is "good" beginner level!
SPARTANEMESIS wrote:
Intssed it is interesting that you bring this topic up. The way I learned to play the game, and I learned from someone who played in tournaments a long time ago, Black cannot castle in the above diagram. Specifically: if any of the squares inbetween the King and castle are under attack one cannot castle. Nowadays most everyone seems in agreement that in the example you've listed it is fine for the castle to pass over the attacked Queen-side square. I always play by the rules that my opponent is comfortable with.
Have you considered googling "Laws of Chess" and playing by them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_chess#Castling
SPARTANEMESIS wrote:
Intssed it is interesting that you bring this topic up. The way I learned to play the game, and I learned from someone who played in tournaments a long time ago, Black cannot castle in the above diagram. Specifically: if any of the squares inbetween the King and castle are under attack one cannot castle. Nowadays most everyone seems in agreement that in the example you've listed it is fine for the castle to pass over the attacked Queen-side square. I always play by the rules that my opponent is comfortable with.
There aren't multiple set of rules when it concerns the piece movements of chess.
If I was to google anything it would probably be how to avoid smart-alecs, if I really cared. Thanks for the suggestion though.
SPARTANEMESIS wrote:
If I was to google anything it would probably be how to avoid smart-alecs, if I really cared. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I'm afraid the internet is just lousy with them. In all seriousness though, "house rules" is for poker or pool, but chess has an official set all written out. And players of world class have been known to discreetly ask the arbiter if you can castle when the Rook's attacked (other things being equal, it is), so we lesser mortals needn't feel ashamed.
You can "check" a King, but you can't "check" a Rook. So in the above position, Black can castle Queen's-side, since he doesn't need to worry about his Rook crossing an attacked square.
Example:
White to move wins a Rook.
Gil-Gandel wrote:
SPARTANEMESIS wrote:
If I was to google anything it would probably be how to avoid smart-alecs, if I really cared. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I'm afraid the internet is just lousy with them. In all seriousness though, "house rules" is for poker or pool, but chess has an official set all written out. And players of world class have been known to discreetly ask the arbiter if you can castle when the Rook's attacked (other things being equal, it is), so we lesser mortals needn't feel ashamed.
Good point Gil-Gandel. The thing is I've never played a game that involved an arbiter. Obviously if a guy tried something completely off the wall during a game I'd ask him: "WTF do you think you're doing?" If it was a woman trying something similar I'd phrase it slightly differently.
There are FIDE - World Chess Federation fules I have find: http://www.ericschiller.com/pdf/OfficialRulesOfChessSample.pdf http://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=124&view=article
If the king is in check, castling is forbidden. If by castling, the king ends up in check, castling is forbidden. If the king crosses over a square controlled by an enemy piece, castling is forbidden. If the rook is attacked, castling is permitted. If the rook passes over a square controlled by an enemy piece, castling is permitted.
Thus, in the position shown in the OP, castling kingside is forbidden; castling queenside is permitted, provided that neither the king nor the queen's rook have previously moved.
Blacks can Castle in this position?
I think not.
Thanks!