Fair Play Policy

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Avatar of thufir
Killing_Joke wrote:
Terricotta wrote:

look, you're making impossible and unfair requests here. If someone aborts, theres no way to tell what the reason was for, and there's nothing wrong with aborting 


 

Yes I agree. And what if the phone rigns and it's work? or someone is at the door? That can certainly lead to a delay in responding - and of course, what about there is thinking time.

And chess.com's java scripts DO cause browsers to crash or freeze., not to mention it is very easy to accidentally close a browser window. 

 

 

As for people that alledgedly abort to change color - um, duh, all you have to do is make aborted games NOT affect the color choosing algorythym.

 

As for delays - sometimes you cannot hear the BEEP sound when you are working in another window/workspace on the computer and not realize that it is time to move. Chess.com would actually be advised to create a Java App that could take focus when it was a player's move.

 

As long as it is a webpage though, these "fair play" ideas are somewhat "odd".


 

 

I'd like to keep things simple.  A draw requires both players to agree.  Either remove the abort button, or make its functionality like draw.

 

As to the phone ringing, work, family, etc, those are *all* valid reasons for taking time to make moves.  That's a good reason for playing with a long clock!  None of those are reasons to abort a game.  If your house catches on fire, well, I guess you'll have to decide whether to take the chess loss or let your house burn. 

 

To put it harshly, and simply, the other player isn't responsible for bearing the burden of what happens in the opponents life or network.  What's wrong with having an outcome to a game?  Is it really so terrible to have a winner and loser?

 

As to chess.com being free or buggy, that's just silly.  Were it pay, that wouldn't magically make the site bug free, so that's just specious.  As to the bugs, you're exagerating.  The java app almost certainly uses some sort of stream socket which detects the status of connectivity.  So, network problems don't cause clock problems.  In fact, it's too permissive, really, but works fine.  No site will be perfect, but this app is quite reliable.

 

Even if there are bugs, why should a player pay the penalty for the opponents technical difficulties?  There still needs to be an outcome to the game. 

 

The point is not that aborting to game the game in terms of openings or colors is silly or shouldn't work, it's that it's annoying to player who's not gaming the game.  it's annoyance.

 

Just as draw requires both players to agree, either both players should agree to an abort, or just remove the button because that button is abused.  The rationale, or lack of one, for using or abusing that button is immaterial if the end result is annoying other players who have agreed to play a game.

 

Once you agree to play a game then there needs to an outcome.  Regular chess has win, lose, draw.  What's wrong with that?  Aborting or saving games for later doesn't occur in regular chess, so those are extra features and should at least require both players agreement.  Once you figuratively sit down the game has started and needs to end at some point.

Avatar of asceventura

I'm pretty new to the game of chess, and I was wondering if this would be considered unsportsmanlike regarding the abort button.

 

Let's say I just got done playing a person in a match. This person then challenges me to another game, and I choose to decline the offer. I go to click a new game and I ended up getting paired against that very same guy. Is it unsportsmanlike to abort the game under this circumstance?

Avatar of thufir
asceventura wrote:

I'm pretty new to the game of chess, and I was wondering if this would be considered unsportsmanlike regarding the abort button.

 

Let's say I just got done playing a person in a match. This person then challenges me to another game, and I choose to decline the offer. I go to click a new game and I ended up getting paired against that very same guy. Is it unsportsmanlike to abort the game under this circumstance?


 

No, that's fine.  It might be construed otherwise, but this is about intent.  It would actually get you flagged by the automated system.  However, not to worry, unless you have a pattern I don't think they'll do anything.

Avatar of dpruess

yeah, that's totally fine use of the abort button, and it won't get you flagged by our system.

Avatar of Kikyo_Sushi
PawnPusher4 wrote:

The Fair Play polaciy is sometimes totally random, becuase i was playing someone and they had 20 min left and waited untill it ran out, however when i played someone else it came up after 3 mins...;


I've noticed this too .. wonder how it works .

Avatar of xristos30

I am restricted for a long time,i play fairly.why the restriction not lifted?

Avatar of pawnmiser7296

bottom line,  this is "chess.com"  they can do what they want at the expense of their customers  it is their site and with that being said I am sure as they are trying to make as many peeps happy as they reasonably can and will continue to do so.  maybe later they can create a game feature search including certain rules in game searches instead of just being a certain color but to include certain extra rules.  oh yea,  they already do in the tournament section.  I think you can have your own tourney restrictions prior to any games being played!!

Avatar of MOANDAS

what is the way to lift the ban of 5 minutes play gap.  when we play some times i have to leave urgently so i cannot continue the game. pl advise in this regard

Avatar of Martin_Stahl

If you have to leave urgently, resign the game; don't disconnect or let it time out.

Avatar of dpruess

yeah, resigning instead of letting your opponent sit there for 4 minutes, possibly gnashing his teeth, is the way to avoid this from the outset-- and the way to be polite to others!!

but once you have the restriction, i believe you can still play games with your friends, and then when your disconnection rate goes down, you will be allowed to play with anyone again.

Avatar of TheEnforcerArmstrong

Can I get unblocked off this thing! I've learned my lesson, and I'll stop rage quitting... I'm just learning and I got frustrated a few times lol. 

Avatar of tyger-2020

What happens if someone is mean to me on chess.com with chatting or messages? Does his account get restricted? If so, I was playing a live game and someone sent me a SUPER insulting chat

Avatar of Kikyo_Sushi
tyger-2020 wrote:

What happens if someone is mean to me on chess.com with chatting or messages? Does his account get restricted? If so, I was playing a live game and someone sent me a SUPER insulting chat

I think u can juz disable chat or send in a ticket abt him tru 'Help & Support'  .. his account won't get restricted tho.

Avatar of Kikyo_Sushi
TheEnforcerArmstrong wrote:

Can I get unblocked off this thing! I've learned my lesson, and I'll stop rage quitting... I'm just learning and I got frustrated a few times lol. 

I think the System will automatically unblock u after awhile ...

Avatar of dpruess
tyger-2020 wrote:

What happens if someone is mean to me on chess.com with chatting or messages? Does his account get restricted? If so, I was playing a live game and someone sent me a SUPER insulting chat

report them to help&support (link at the bottom of every page). screenshot the abusive behavior if possible, so we have evidence of what happened. thanks for helping keep chess.com a friendly place.

Avatar of zach1991

Question.    If restricted, how many games do i have to play fairly for my restriction to go away.   Ever since ive gotten the basic restriction, even after playing fairly, and all the way through without aborting, im still restricted from challenging people.  How many more games do i have to wait b4 my account is back to normal.

Avatar of dpruess

Zach, it's percentage based so i can't give a clear general answer. however, looking at your account, it appears you are good to go again or after one single further game. let me know if you have further problems with that.

Avatar of thufir
Kikyo_Sushi wrote:
PawnPusher4 wrote:

The Fair Play polaciy is sometimes totally random, becuase i was playing someone and they had 20 min left and waited untill it ran out, however when i played someone else it came up after 3 mins...;


I've noticed this too .. wonder how it works .

 

Ditto, ditto, ditto.  I can't say how many times I've seen this happen.

 

Can we add an option "max minutes/move" which can be set?  I like 30min games, personally, but some players take fifteen minutes for a single move sometimes, which is a bit much.

Avatar of toofan_singh

Sir , this is to bring to your notice that i have not stalled or aborted any games at all. The game doesnt load up properly and gets auto aborted and i am being punished by this site by making me wait 5 mins between consecutive games.

Sir i play only 3 mins blitz games and I find it extremely frustrating to wait for 5 mins for a 3 mins blitz game.

I have brought this problem to the notice of the site admins twice already and nothing has changed.

Avatar of dpruess

i'm sorry, but the site admins can't do anything if your internet connection does not work properly, which is probably the problem here. if your games are being auto aborted all the time, that probably means you are lagging out for more than 30 seconds.

it's hard to play blitz chess without a fast connection.