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JamieDelarosa · 2014-07-04T18:08:45-07:00

Re: killing you LkXM5J3ixKkgA8jKTBuV 7/4/14 @ 5:49 PM Send Friend Request you can explain, while you are sucking my dick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Original Message by JamieDelarosa on 7/4/14, 4:33 PM: Explain, please. ------------------------------

AlCzervik

Jul 20, 2014

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#381

Careless and frightened.

Yeah, you're right.

JamieDelarosa

Jul 20, 2014

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#382

Babytigrrr wrote:

So, I was pretty much right. Why would you expect to be prepared to shoot someone you know?

Maybe guns make family arguments and sudden anger against an acquaintance or neighbour a quick and regrettable fix. Would be an interesting stat to see how many people actually defended themselves or family against a life and death situation within their own home?

I lived in Los Angeles during the "Rodney King" riots. One need only see the breakdown of civil society once to understand the necessity of being prepared.

Babytigrrr

Jul 20, 2014

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#383

People will always be able to justify arming themselves. I justify my right not to. Even my kick-boxing was for fitness and not defence. Stay safe Jamie.

RonaldJosephCote

Jul 20, 2014

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#384

@Al Cvervik; Maybe you misunderstood Normatic Knight in post 376. He works in Law Enforcement. His problems are bigger than being "Down A Pen".

AlCzervik

Jul 20, 2014

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#385

Hey, now! Those pens are valuable!

Irontiger

Jul 20, 2014

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#386

NomadicKnight wrote:

Apparently you aren't familiar with the steps these Mexican drug cartels go to in order to protect their cash crops.

Let's see, in the past 5 years I have heard the following happening to your weekend hiker or hunter, all taking place within 100 square miles inside my county on national forest land:

(...)

Not a week later, a hiker was walking through the forest when he began to smell something funny. He paused, and looking off the side of the trail, he spotted the plants - Right at that moment one of the growers fired an arrow over the man's head, hitting a tree directly behind him. He ran from the area and once again, SWAT and ERAD moved in and destroyed the site.

(...)

Still think I am BSing you?

(...)

Yes.

(I used to take out drug plants with SWAT too, but I took an arrow in the knee.)

NomadicKnight wrote:

Yes but, especially since you are in California, the litigation capital of the world where you can sue for breathing in someone's fart, if you do have to exercise your right to self defense, you dont aim to maim, you aim to kill, otherwise your attacker can track down any scum bag lawyer with a price low enough to allow them to sue you for all you have. (...)

"Kill them, otherwise the law might be enforced"

And you still think you are the last defender of civilization...

Irontiger

Jul 20, 2014

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#387

Elubas wrote:

Maybe there's something psychological about it. Perhaps there is an urge to not feel defenseless, a feeling that you can take control of a situation, even though the low likelihood of the event could, in some sense, be thought of as a defense in itself.

Calling the low likelihood of an event a "defense" is a bit of stretch. It might justify not putting up any defense, but it is no defense in itself - I wouldn't say my inaction is a defense against extraterrestrial invasion of my home.

More to the point, I don't like laws being made out of FUD tactics.

Again, if you consider that the security you gain from a law banning personal owning of nuclear missiles is not enough for the freedom restriction you consent in exchange, that is your opinion and I cannot argue with it. On the other side, the claim that possession of nuclear weapons makes you safe, or do not make you too much unsafe, can be quantified and challenged by the way of statistics, comportemental studies, etc.

I am pushing it to an extreme, but that works for many things, from guns to drugs (this includes cocaïne and beer), speed limits, taxes, and the right to move out of your home without getting consent from the town council. In all those fields, the tradeoffs are different, and most people would agree that the tradeoff is acceptable in some and unacceptable in others (except hard-line libertarians and hard-line legalists).

RonaldJosephCote

Jul 20, 2014

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#388

"The right to move out of your home without getting consent from town council"??? Where the hell does THAT come from.? Are we talking about some kid in his parents's basement??

JamieDelarosa

Jul 20, 2014

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#389

Ronald, I think that might be a reference to "Council homes." In some places, the local housing authority provides free, subsidized, and/or low-cost housing ... sort of like "the projects" in the US.

RonaldJosephCote

Jul 20, 2014

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#390

maybe the "homestead act"?? I like your question. "why would you prepare to shoot someone you know"? hahaha, In case they decide to launch nuclear weapons at you. You sleep with someone for 30 yrs, and you never really know them.

RonaldJosephCote

Jul 20, 2014

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#391

My mistake, He's flying a flag from France. I'm not familiar with the habitat laws over there. Maybe I should put that on my bucket list. Go To France. So I can be properly kicked out by city council. I heard they don't like hippies anyways.

Babytigrrr

Jul 20, 2014

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#392

My mum and dad have been married for 35 years this week. I think they now pretty much know they won't aim to shoot Ron.

Irontiger

Jul 20, 2014

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#393

RonaldJosephCote wrote:

"The right to move out of your home without getting consent from town council"??? Where the hell does THAT come from.? Are we talking about some kid in his parents's basement??

After some research, I can find no source about the part "town council", (except Hugo's Les Misérables, not exactly a reliable thing) but there has been multiple periods in history where the authorities restricted travel possibilities even within the same country.

Serfdom is a blatant example but even "free men" have been subject to passport systems within the same country in Prussia, France, etc.

It has never been the case in the US, and it is no longer the case in any European country, as far as I know.

JamieDelarosa

Jul 20, 2014

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#394

Babytigrrr wrote:

My mum and dad have been married for 35 years this week. I think they now pretty much know they won't aim to shoot Ron.

My congratulations to your parents. That is somewhat of a rarity these days!

We hit the 30-year mark last year. Went on a vacation with ... NO KIDS!

johnmusacha

Jul 20, 2014

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#395

AlCzervik wrote:

NomadicKnight wrote:

As for Babytigrrr's comment asking if it is a fact that having a gun in the house is more likely to injure a family member than not, that is completely false. Perhaps because the UK bans most guns she has this perception. Responsible gun owners who have children in the house lock their guns up so children cannot access them. Buy a pistol in the United States and it comes with a free gun cable lock. Most rifles now have a locking mechanism on their safeties. Gun accidents have dropped drastically since such free gun lock programs have started, and educational materials have taught people with children in the house to lock their guns and store ammo seperately, as well as instructing other adults in the household on proper handling. It's the propoganda of the anti-gun crowd who wants you to think otherwise, but the facts are there for anyone to hop onto Google and look up.

As for her saying get better burglar alarms and locks, think of it this way: Most households with such systems or who call 911 can expect a response time averaging 15 minutes or more (In my case over an hour because I live in a remote area). So what are you going to do in that best case scenario of 15 minutes while you have an armed, drug addled criminal in your home and you are defenseless and must rely on the police to show up to save you? Your face is probably going to be appearing in the newspaper, a casualty that didn't have to be if only you had taken the steps to insure your right to self defense.

What's with all the fear of a home invasion where you will be killed? If you live in such a bad area with drug cartels controlling it, why not move?

Yes, home invasions happen.

Get over yourself.

Or, are you the last individual wrapped in the flag that will die there?

Regarding your comment about a gun in the home: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data

What I want you to see is that 54% of deaths were committed by an aquaintance, and 24.8% of deaths by gun were committed by a family member.

Having a gun, or, as you do, one in every room, does not ensure safety. If you ever get over your insecurities you may see this, but, I doubt it.

People living in bad neighborhoods can't afford to move. Furthermore, people worried about armed assailants invading their homes must stay vigilant and sober at home at all times. You can be armed to the teeth but if you're all droopy eyed and out of it on hashish, xanax, and fish tranquilizer, all those guns will serve you no use.

People that are known to keep large amounts of cash and/or drugs in their homes are targets of home invasion but not getting high at home is too much of a price to pay for home security.

zapped

Jul 20, 2014

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#396

Babytigrrr wrote:

My mum and dad have been married for 35 years this week. I think they now pretty much know they won't aim to shoot Ron.

Zapped writes: I wouldn't bet on that Babytigrrr. Just kidding my friend RJC. ... lol

RonaldJosephCote

Jul 20, 2014

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#397

My parents stayed together for 50 yrs, and they should of killed me any number of times. hahahaha Jamie, NO KIDS!!

Babytigrrr

Jul 20, 2014

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#398

The very few times in my life I have gotten so angry... I am so grateful for not being armed. The one and only time I got violent in my life was when I punched my husband full on the chin, (not proud) if I had a gun in my hand ... who knows‽‽

Pulpofeira

Jul 20, 2014

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#399

Don't worry about that, miss J. Probably you would throw it to his head...

JamieDelarosa

Jul 20, 2014

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#400

RonaldJosephCote wrote:

My parents stayed together for 50 yrs, and they should of killed me any number of times. hahahaha Jamie, NO KIDS!!

Yeah, 28 years of "family vacations" LOLZ

It was a lot like that Chevy Chase movie.