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dgmcremer
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Psyxchess

ummmmmmmmmmmm it is completely legal to use your clock as an advantage and with 3 minutes you should be able to prove it is a draw through playing out the drawing moves

dgmcremer
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Psyxchess

like i said earlier you are allowed to use the clock as an advantage it dosent matter that the postion is considered a draw unless thier is insufficent material it will not give an automatic draw

trysts

Yep, it looks like you somehow lost a drawn game. Like Psyxchess said, you had plenty of time to draw that game, you just blew itTongue out

dgmcremer

how did I blow that???  we had played enough repetitive moves?  I would just have lost on time if I continued to move.  Are you telling me that the system would have looked at the game at the end of my time and declared it a draw?  That would be interesting.

Psyxchess

no it dosent it is objective and only declares draw on insufficent material next time just move your bishop around and wait for 50 move to pass and then press the draw button

dgmcremer

ahh, so that is the key, 50 moves!  I didn't realize that was the majic number.  I thought 25 was enough.  Cool, thanks.

psyduck

also, you can hit the offer draw button, and it'll give you a draw on repitition automatically (sometimes)

dgmcremer

yeah, that didn't work.  I guess the 50 move hint is the key

Psyxchess

its called the 50 move draw rule look it up on wikipedia

dgmcremer

I trust you more than I trust wikipedia.  My daughter's have a teacher that purposefully changes data on that site to get his students to do real research.

Psyxchess

lolyes i know it is unreliable, so the 50 move draw rule happens when 50 moves are made without a capture or pawn move you can claim draw by hitting the draw button

GrantZierer

It was a deserved loss. Chess is a psychological game also. Time pressure is psyhcological along wth refusing draws. It is important to not get toomad at them for taking the mental edge.

dgmcremer

thanks for the thought but this was a case of learning the rules better and not part of the psychological nature of chess.  I had plenty of time to run up moves required to get to the 50.  I just thought that it was enough at 37 moves of draw.  It isn't a big deal.  I am used to players knowing when to call it a game instead of dragging things out. Live and learn.  I have only played 4 games on this site. 

LAexpress12

heres a couple ideas:

1, take this disscution to the forum "10 things you have never heard b4 on chess.com" we have heard this forum 10 bajillion times, were tired of it.

2. uh, win some games? dont you KNOW that your opponet is allowed to do anything over the board? hes even allowed to clock himself! So! its YOUR fault for not drawing that game using the 50 move rule. You had a few minutes!? 45 seconds is SURELY enough time to pull out the 50 move rule. And dont go crazy with premove wither. opposite color bishop draw, just keep ur king and pawns on opposite color squares as ur opponets bishop. The, if u have lik 2 secs left, just premove drawing king moves back and forth and back and forth.

3. how are you used to guys who know when its time to call it game? u said uv played only 4 games on chess.com (unless ur talking about real life)

4.dont get in  that drawing position.

tequilagirl

you say you had 3 minutes left, to their 7? so you took 4 minutes longer than your opponent to get to that stage and you think you are equal?

dgmcremer

thank you all for your comments.  I learned some things that are easy to correct.  As for playing 4 games, yes that is only on this site.  I have been playing on FICS.  Equal is equal, just like checkmate is final regardless of the number of points you have on the board.  What I think doesn't matter but thanks for the mental status exam, lol. 

Dragec
dgmcremer wrote:

I trust you more than I trust wikipedia.  My daughter's have a teacher that purposefully changes data on that site to get his students to do real research.


I guess you would trust the official FIDE laws of chess:

http://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=124&view=article

Article 9.3 covers the 50 move rule.

Other drawing line would be a 3-fold repetition covered in Article 9.2.

3rd solution would be to play game with increments which effective disarms the strategy your opponent performed in the game in question.

BTW, the subject is evergreen, and every day someone starts a similar thread. Win on time is part of the game, so you'd better get used to it.