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Rookover

One of my opponent [Name Removed by Moderator - Please do not "name and shame"] of online chess games has been on vacation for a very long time in a losing position (a checkmate in 2!). I suspect his vacation is not genuine.

How can I adjudicate it, or check the number of days he has left?

Scottrf

He has 1 month and 23 days.

adamplenty

I believe vacation abuse may be a form of cheating, though I'm not sure. If so, you may want to discuss this in the cheating forum instead.

Rookover

Thank you for your prompt answer.

It seems to me he has been on vacation much longer than a week, but ok, I can wait.

johnmusacha

Yes, check his other games he's on vacation for as well:

[Link to user's games removed by Moderator]

What does the position look like in those?  It looks like the guy just went on auto-vacation for a while; I wouldn't worry about it.  Vacation days can be used for any reason the "vacationing" player wants.

johnmusacha
adamplenty wrote:

I believe vacation abuse may be a form of cheating, though I'm not sure. If so, you may want to discuss this in the cheating forum instead.

Please tell us more.  Why is going on vacation "cheating?"  Do you have a rule or something you could cite?

Changu

I dont see how he is abusing his vacation at all.

TheGrobe
johnmusacha wrote:

Yes, check his other games he's on vacation for as well: 

You can't selectively go on vacation -- it's all games or none, with the exception of games from no-vacation tournaments (which you simply can't stop the clock on).

johnmusacha

All I was saying is the OP should check all his opponent's online games before he concludes that the vacation was precipitated just because of the one game he was playing with the guy.

And I'm still interested in hearing more about why Adam thinks that going on vacation is "cheating."  Conversely, I'd like Changu to elaborate on why it doesn't look like "abuse."

Rookover

Sorry for putting the name of my opponent. I did not want to name and shame, just to facilitate identifying the game.

I agree that I should have realised that he was actually in vacation for all his other games too. My apologies.

Changu

Coz its legalised like weed i think in holland!

Conflagration_Planet

I don't know how you could possibly fake vacation time.  Smile

Rookover
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adamplenty

http://support.chess.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/104/0/what-is-vacation-abuse

I did not say that going on vacation is cheating. As the article explains, going on vacation just to prolong a lost game is abuse and can result in you being banned. Therefore chess.com must be considering it as a form of cheating.

johnmusacha

Yes thank you for the link.  Just because it can get you banned doesn't make it cheating.  Just think of it as some "inappropriate" behavior that can get one banned.  Like you can get banned for sending too many messages.  That's not cheating.

adamplenty

You can still view games while you're on vacation though. One can abuse vacation to give them more thinking time than they're supposed to have. Isn't that cheating?

johnmusacha

Yeah but then you are getting back to the proposition that any vacation is cheating. You say that vacation gives people time they "should not have." 

Are you saying that vacationers should pledge not to look, or even think about their games at all during "vacation" time?

adamplenty

Of course that's not what I'm saying.

johnmusacha

Is this not what you said:

" . . .give them more thinking time than they're supposed to have."

Do you deny making that statement seven minutes ago?  Do you have short term memory problems?

adamplenty

No, I said that if they use vacation to give them more time, and not because they're unavailable, then it's cheating.