https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules
- Club/Group forums are not moderated except for reports of hate speech, threatening personal attacks, or obscenity.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules
This is a post from Eric dated 2009, and his words are not incorporated into the recently updated Terms of Service.
So which is it: Do you moderate and enforce the ToS? Or do you moderate and enforce based on a post from 2009?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules
Just to be clear: Chess.com is telling the users that it is okay to have a private club that endorses and promotes racism, religious fanaticism, political division, antisemitism, sexism, hate speech, violence of any type, and etc. – as long as everyone in that particular club are okay with those subjects?
I understand that the clubs are not moderated by an official Chess.com Moderator or Staff person.
The question remains: Do the Terms of Service apply to those private clubs? Moderated or not?
Is hate speech allowed in private clubs on Chess.com?
Here's Erik's post from 2009:
Chess.com is a friendly community. We try to keep it that way by following a common set of rules for posting. The following topics or behaviors are not allowed in the main public forums or chat rooms:
If you would like to discuss any of the topics above you may do so in one of the many private clubs.
If you are found unable to follow these rules, you may have your posting abilities restricted.
Thank you for helping Chess.com keep a safe and friendly environment where we can all enjoy chess! If you have any questions, please contact us.
Here's Erik's post from 2014:
Chess.com is a global community and we hope to be civil, friendly, and helpful to one another. We try to keep it that way by following a common set of rules for posting. We do not tolerate:
Additionally, the following behaviors are not allowed in the main public forums and chat rooms:
Club/Group forums are not moderated except for reports of hate speech, threatening personal attacks, or obscenity. If you are found unable to follow these rules, you may have your posting abilities restricted.
When you participate in our community please remember:
The following are our moderator action policies:
How can Chess.com say that they do not "tolerate" these things, but then turn around and say that they are allowed in the Clubs, and obviously tolerated in all other areas of the platform?
What is it like moderate these mixed messages?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules
This is a post from Eric dated 2009, and his words are not incorporated into the recently updated Terms of Service.
So which is it: Do you moderate and enforce the ToS? Or do you moderate and enforce based on a post from 2009?
Clubs have long been separate sections and have long been something handled differently. Staff certainly can handle reports from clubs, though moderators can't unless it's a site ran club, they are admins in the club, or the admins of a club request it.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules
This is a post from Eric dated 2009, and his words are not incorporated into the recently updated Terms of Service.
So which is it: Do you moderate and enforce the ToS? Or do you moderate and enforce based on a post from 2009?
Clubs have long been separate sections and have long been something handled differently. Staff certainly can handle reports from clubs, though moderators can't unless it's a site ran club, they are admins in the club, or the admins of a club request it.
so Religious clubs are allowed?
Chess.com repeatedly evades responsibility for enforcing User Conduct on this platform. Just tonight we were told in a public form by a Chess.com Moderator that "clubs are allowed to set their own rules and the club admins handle issues within them. Since clubs are voluntary to join, members can leave ones that have rules they don't agree with."
I just reviewed the User Conduct section of the User Agreement, and nothing in Chess.com's Terms of Service (ToS) informs the user/subscriber that the Community Policy does not apply to every user, public or private club, Forums, Notes, Blogs, and etc.
Every user agreed to not use Chess.com for the following purposes (my comments are in RED):
Chess.com, please tell us, does your User Agrement agreement apply to every user, every forum, every post, every note, every article response, every public club, every private club, every blog, and every user comment posted on Chess.com?
Or does your current policy allow for racist, ethnic, religious, political, violent, hateful extremism to persist and grow within selected Clubs and Forums? Or across the entire platform?
I (and others) would like to know if there are any safe spaces on this platform, or are you simply not enforcing your own public policy that we all agreed to abide by as users on Chess.com?