gg is arrogance

I never tell an opponent I have just beaten " good game " in otb chess , do you ? So, why would it be different in online ? I think this is seen more as " rubbing salt in the wound " ( which is fresh as it has just been inflicted ) by the losing player. Online about 99% of the "gg" remarks I get are from those who have just beaten me and alomost NEVER from someone who just lost. This fact supports the view that those who like to say "gg" are just rubbing salt into the wound, with very, very few exceptions.

i say gl and gg before and after every game win or lose and i definatly dont mean i just owned u NOOB! i mean to be polite cause in tournaments u always say good luck and good game before and after every game and if they done mean i pwned u in tourneys y would they mean it in live chess?  

Actually I do.  I say good game game and offer a handshake win or lose.   Maybe the folks at my club are just more down to earth or something.

 Exactly! 

Maybe just saying "handshake" online would suffice?   Known chess etiquette suggest shaking hands before and after any game as proper.

the fact that that 'arrogance' actually bothers you only says you can't handle losing very well (well you would'nt consider it arrogance if they said it when they were losing). Maybe some people are saying it with arrogant intention, in any case, why care?

 ~I was referring more to serious rated tournament play, not club play among friends. I always shake hands before and after every game, regardless of result unless my opponent doesnt want to. Let's suppose you win a game in which your opponent overlooked a forced mate in 3 and then blundered his Q and lost ? This was certainly NOT a "good game" and to tell the guy who just lost "good game" after such a game is likely to enrage the loser and may well be seen as " rubbing salt into the wound". If I win I dont say anything unless my opponent does because I know what the "loser" is going through in such moments and in many/most cases I dont think they want to hear "good game" from the winner, especially if it was not really a good game. The etiquette in chess is not the same in all forms of play : social/tournament/match/club/rated/unrated  etc.......

Like I said, perhaps just saying handshake would suffice.   

I usually just say "thank you for the game" weather I won or lose, if a lower rated player beat me I say " well done (or well played)and thank you for the game."

I've just gotten into the habit of saying gg from playing Starcraft, whereas I think "thanks for the game" is probably slightly more appropriate.

I tend to say "gg" if I think the game was close or particularly enjoyable (regardless of who won or lost)

I often say "thanks for the game" whether I win or lose, but no doubt sooner or later some malcontent is going to interpret it as me thanking him for handing me a win.  Face it, these people are just looking for insults, and the ones who want to will figure out a way to put a negative spin on anything.  If they are really driven to such angst from receiving "gg", they deserve it-- they do it to themselves.

 How is it arrogant to say 'gg'? I say that on chess.com whether I win, lose or draw, and perhaps comment on the game.

OTB, I also shake hands and say good game and provide a positive comment on how they played, win, lose or draw.

@Cystem_Phailure are you telling that this whole thing is just one bad Irish joke ?

What's an Irish joke?  Is that some aussie term?

Im not bothered if people say to me gg , whether win or lose, but if some out there have a problem then maybe we start a new terminolgy like  tftg (thanks for the game) or just tfg (thanks for game). Both easy to hit on keyboard, keys next to each other. Thats my 2 cents for what its worth. Have a nice day

I don't know what an Irish joke is but I know an Irish Hug is really a punch to the gut.

HAHAHA that's nice goldendog. :p

Wonder how a loser would interprit this OTB handshake?    lol

I'm fairly certain saying GG after this would be insult to injury....lol