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Bodhiwan

Judging by the 31 pages this has probably been said 12 times already, but anyhoo I really do not think one should put too much if any thought into the "gg" comment. For most people it's simply the plain courtesy thing that it have always been regarding online games of any kind in general. For the few that would mean something else with it, well, who cares? If they really wanted to offend, they would likely not use something that most people consider to be a courtesy response... It's a bit like getting annoyed by a person saying hi on the street. What the **** did he mean by that, saying hi to me!? My god people are rude!!!

BLS-Envoy

Good game is slightly provacative, but it find motivational instead of annoying, and makes wanna get better as a player. Obvious I'm angry that I lost, but I feel that any game I lose or win is a good one as long as the game looks good. ^^ 

pj-6

I think it's fabulous that we can find something negative in anything. Imagine how revoltingly pleasant and productive our lives would be otherwise.

blake78613
Bodhiwan wrote:

Judging by the 31 pages this has probably been said 12 times already, but anyhoo I really do not think one should put too much if any thought into the "gg" comment. For most people it's simply the plain courtesy thing that it have always been regarding online games of any kind in general. For the few that would mean something else with it, well, who cares? If they really wanted to offend, they would likely not use something that most people consider to be a courtesy response... It's a bit like getting annoyed by a person saying hi on the street. What the **** did he mean by that, saying hi to me!? My god people are rude!!!


 If you have to ask "who cares?", then you're beyond hope.  Part of the problem is that people who lack social awareness and empathy, don't put any thought into their comments.  This is forgivable and can be chalked up to immaturity, but once it has been pointed out to them how inappropriate it is for the winner to say "GG"; and they persist, then this can't be called anything but arrogance and they can  no longer claim good intentions.

pj-6
blake78613 wrote: ...  once it has been pointed out to them how inappropriate it is for the winner to say "GG"; and they persist, then this can't be called anything but arrogance and they can  no longer claim good intentions.

It's shorter than "Thank you for the game", which is arguably the best thing to say at the end. And I think that's what most of us mean by "gg". I usually write "gg thanks".

Cystem_Phailure
blake78613 wrote:

 If you have to ask "who cares?", then you're beyond hope.  Part of the problem is that people who lack social awareness and empathy, don't put any thought into their comments.  This is forgivable and can be chalked up to immaturity, but once it has been pointed out to them how inappropriate it is for the winner to say "GG"; and they persist, then this can't be called anything but arrogance and they can  no longer claim good intentions.


What a pompous twit.  Now that this has been pointed out to you, perhaps you'll cease with your attempts to force others into adopting your paranoid interpretations.  Anything else would be continued arrogance on your part and a clear indication of your bad intentions.

TheGrobe

People are going to get offended when you say "GG" and people are going to get offended when you don't say "GG".  What's interesting isn't so much the difference, but the commonality between these two groups: they both assume the worst of people and are quick to take offense when there is none to be taken.

When viewed in this light, it quickly becomes clear that the problem here isn't with the speaker at all, it's with the listener.

eddiewsox

There are games when it is appropriate to say "good game" and games when it isn't. 

e4nf3

Nonsense

eddiewsox

I don't say good game unless it was a good game. If somebody hangs a piece it isn't a good game.

TheGrobe
eddiewsox wrote:

There are games when it is appropriate to say "good game" and games when it isn't. 


No-one's going to have the exact same interpretation of when it is or isn't appropriate, though, or even whether they agree with your statement in the first place, so doesn't it make more sense to assume that your opponent simply has a different understanding from yours than to assume he was trying to insult you?

Vance917
TheGrobe wrote:

People are going to get offended when you say "GG" and people are going to get offended when you don't say "GG".  What's interesting isn't so much the difference, but the commonality between these two groups: they both assume the worst of people and are quick to take offense when there is none to be taken.

When viewed in this light, it quickly becomes clear that the problem here isn't with the speaker at all, it's with the listener.


+1

Vance917
TheGrobe wrote:
eddiewsox wrote:

There are games when it is appropriate to say "good game" and games when it isn't. 


No-one's going to have the exact same interpretation of when it is or isn't appropriate, though, or even whether they agree with your statement in the first place, so doesn't it make more sense to assume that your opponent simply has a different understanding from yours than to assume he was trying to insult you?


+1

ChapdawG09

Even worse when your opponent says "bye bye! good game"

eddiewsox

Yes. I don't feel insulted when my opponent says good game after I've given him or her my Queen. I just think it's really silly and I don't do it myself.

blake78613
TheGrobe wrote:

People are going to get offended when you say "GG" and people are going to get offended when you don't say "GG".  What's interesting isn't so much the difference, but the commonality between these two groups: they both assume the worst of people and are quick to take offense when there is none to be taken.

When viewed in this light, it quickly becomes clear that the problem here isn't with the speaker at all, it's with the listener.


I don't know of a single case where a loser was offended because the winner didn't offer an unsolicited "GG".  How many do you know about?

TheGrobe

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/saying-gg-after-a-game

Vance917
eddiewsox wrote:

Yes. I don't feel insulted when my opponent says good game after I've given him or her my Queen. I just think it's really silly and I don't do it myself.


I understand the sentiment; it does not seem honest to say that your opponent played well if he or she did not.  But this is where something may be lost in the translation.  "Good game" need not be taken literally, and need not indicate that "you played a good game".  To my mind, and apparently to the mind of several others here, it is simply short hand notation for "thank you for the game".  When viewed in this light, there is nothing dishonest or silly about it.  And certainly nothing offensive.

CarolynAlbie

I only ever get offended when my opponent says GG after the first move or two, other than that I just assume it's a platitude for "Thanks for the game". Just like "GL" doesn't actually mean the opponent is wishing you luck because I assume they don't really care enough.

elbowgrease

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