gg is arrogance

After a rousing series of blitz my opponent receives from me, without fail, a 12 page statement expressing my acceptable satisfaction with the games and releasing me from any implication of discourteousness including but not limited to any real or imagined arrogance, denying or accepting a rematch, aborting, underpromotion, and premoving. 

The packet is delivered 3-6 weeks prior to the match and was written by a team of social lawyers.  If there are any questions or complains about my behavior under real or imaginary implicit social standards, my opponent is instructed to contact their office.  A transcript of the game chat as well as moves for each game can be provided upon request for a nominal fee.

Please note as my opponent it is your responsibility to notify me of any change of address within 2 weeks upon completion of the games or the additional cost of sending my sentiments will be charged to my opponent.

Hey, I just realized something wafflle:  are you saying that you live in a John Dos Passos novel? 

Didn't catch the reference, sorry :)

ff!!

Isn't the prime directive of chess learning how to lose gracefully and respect your opponent?  I mean how many sociopathic players have i encountered that respond with piss and vinegar to a defeat--even a closely, well-played game--and these sorts never seem to understand that there will *always* be some one (not necessarily "better") that beats you.  

We all have the potential to interpret things differently to each other. I do not think it means anything negative at all. Certainly not arrogance. 

It is just an easy way to thank a person for a game. Over the internet we play people from all over the world and so not all players can communicate effectively. 'gg' makes it simple. 

I certainly never take it badly if I say "good game," and there is no response.  Some people just don't use the chat, fine.  If someone thinks saying good game is arrogant, then I'm out in the wilderness of ignorance.  

Interpreting GG as arrogance is arrogance.  It's meta-arrogance.

LOL:  "gg" could also mean "Good God" or "goodness gracious" or "go get'm."

i guess 'gg' is a supposed to be a mere Formality then .. but there r people who may not be aware of this Gaming Rule n' interpret it literally as whether it was a 'Good Game' to them or not , n' say what they mean or mean what they say .. juz a matter of language/defination.

Maybe we shld hv a 'Rule' to explain it's Intended Universal Meaning /Interpretation so Everyone knows .. lol.

@Kikyo_Sushi:  it's not a rule, it's an option of sportsmanship and politeness.  If you don't say it, fine.  If you do, whether you are the winner or loser, it is a simply a handshake.  A friendly thing to do.  What is the issue with this?  Why are you folks sweating over a nice thing to say?

Right!

if you win, and the other person doesn't say anything, you shouldn't say anything either. Saying GG at that point would be seen as rubbing it into the other person's face that they lost, at least thats how I see it. However, if the loser GG's first, its always polite to GG back. But GG'ing as the winner before the loser GG's is just plain disrespectul.

if you win, and the other person doesn't say anything, you shouldn't say anything either. Saying GG at that point would be seen as rubbing it into the other person's face that they lost, at least thats how I see it. However, if the loser GG's first, its always polite to GG back. But GG'ing as the winner before the loser GG's is just plain disrespectul.

Don't sweat it.

@samtheclam: rubbing it in?  are you kidding me?  When did we all become so cynical?  it is just a polite statement, that is all it is.  Nothing more.    

Ex-parrot has the right idea. Pretty much shuts down this silly debate.

Personally, I say gg after a game that was good. Wether my opponent was completely owned in the end, or I lost the game, if it was one that made me actually think then I am gg-ing it. If my opponent traded down to material quickly and tried to take me in the endgame, or some other lame thing, then I just leave or offer a rematch.

See that is rational.  You can offer the pleasantry or not.  Not offering it isn't rude, but offering it is surely not arrogant or hammering your opponent down.  So the whole issue seems ludicrous.  I say good game even when the game was sh*tty. I shake the hands of people I don't particularly like.  Because that is being a polite human being.  It's not always about quid pro quo.  Sacrifice your dignity and offer the hand.