Offering a draw when you're clearly losing the game...

...and then resigning when I refuse the draw. Why do people do this? It's insulting, cocky and makes me assume you're an A-hole.

Why is this so common place here? Is everyone on this site an A-hole? If somebody did that in a face-to-face game I'd shove their king down their throat

Asking or a draw on every move is harassment. If someone did that in an otb tournament they would be warned and perhaps forfeited. Asking for a draw once before resigning is pretty harmless. Why get upset?

I wasn't upset, more angry. It's such a snide thing to do. What's the hope, that either your opponent:

• is ignorant enough to accept?
• accepts it by accident? (thinking they're closing the notification that says you've forfeited)

Either way – you're trying to steal a win; it's shameful conduct IMO.

It's nothing. Sometimes it's even a joke. It just doesn't matter. Getting angry all the time is not the way to happiness!

ok incel

What is more annoying is in over-the-board tournaments when a totally busted player offers a hand that definitely looked like a resignation, but whispers an almost inaudible "draw" and then tries to claim that the opponent accepted a draw.  Any halfway decent arbiter/TD will either rule it a resignation or will at least resume the game from that point with the whisperer's opponent having been clued in that a clarification will be necessary before actually shaking hands.

Yes, asking for a draw at the sight of one´s own defeat it´s a bad habit and happens from time to time. But it is within the rules. If you really don´t like it, then ban the player so that you will never have to play against him. Mostly I just shake my head and think: you would like it, but I will not do it. Far more evil is the second habbit: Asking all the time for a draw. Such a person I would not only ban, but report.

Why are Italians so angry at people all the time?

Offering a draw and immediately resigning when it is declined is only checking whether the opponent knows he is winning. I've been surprised by resignations a couple of times, only finding the winning move in later analysis. So there is no cause to be upset at this as your opponent quickly acknowledged your win as soon as you indicated you too knew it. In case of spamming with draw offers, realize that the rules say that making a move IS a refusal. So just play on normally and ignore the boor.

lol

Bold of you to assume gender in this hypothetical...

I know they're "only checking to see if I know I'm winning", but when e.g. they're down a queen and a pawn in the middle game, then "only checking to see if I know I'm winning" is akin to checking whether I'm a complete imbecile

Anyway, now that I've got my rating up a bit I'm no longer dealing with this every few games, so I'm not bothered by it any more. It's still v. rude IMO though, regardless of what level it happens at!

I'm kind of with the OP on this point.  Personally, I believe that you should only offer a draw if you honestly believe that the game cannot be resolved one way or the other through continuing to play.  Occasionally, there may be a reasonable case where you may prefer a draw rather than risk an uncertain outcome, but to offer a draw only when you have already effectively lost definitely does grind my gears.  I don't think it is that much better than those that abandon games when losing without having the dignity of resigning, which of course is accepted as bad sportsmanship.

That said I do also accept that there is no point in getting too upset about it and you always get to console yourself in the end when you do walk away with the win in your pocket.

You never know. Could be a kid. I once played a kid in an OTB tournament who offered me 7 times a draw in 15 moves ... Or a beginner who doesn't know anything about etiquette... 

No. 

No. 

No. 

No. 

No. 

No. 

No. 

Good summary.

I pretty much agree but there is more than one valid reason to offer a draw.  A few of the valid possible reasons are

1) The game would most likely be a draw with best play

2) The game would most likely be a draw with the line you plan on playing.  Note that somebody may be mis-analyzing and thus think they are offering a valid draw when the game is not really a draw (annoys the recipient of the erroneous draw offer) or the recipient may be mis-analyzing and thus not realize that what they think is a win is really a draw (also annoys to recipient both when they think they are receiving an erroneous draw offer and again when they finally realize that they misunderstood the situation).

3) To secure a win in a fixed-board team match even though the game itself is still up for grabs.

4) To clinch a prize in a tournament even though the game itself is still up for grabs.

5) To be nice when the opponent has to suddenly leave and would flag after abandoning an equal or winning position.

Thank you!

what do you mean you were 'asked to resign?' did your opponent send you a dm? how were you 'asked?'

Try shoving my king down my throat, I'll have you arrested for assault. We'll see who was cocky then.