einstein thanks, I'll look it up, I tried tonight to do premoves at blitz but no good, does it only work in quick? I now see how som epeople can be so quick! I thought ssteevveenn was right and it actually came down to physical speed if you were evenly matched chess ability wise, this couyld mak ethings easier for me.
Anyway I'll check my settings
I thinks it works for all three: quick, blitz, and long :)
Premove is definitely not cheating because it is not against the rules and is available to everyone. See how easy that was? 
I don't see the problem. After all, you are forced to make the move you set (unless illegal) and you may be taking a risk sometimes (if your opponent deviates). It's not all rainbows. Either way, if I am certain what move I will make, it makes sense that I can just send my move ahead of time and the software can make it when it's my turn. There isn't even a discrepancy between OTB chess since you are not moving on your opponent's turn, but right after it. My only complaint is that you cannot string together premoves or use conditional moves.
BTW: Due to some lag issues on chess.com you still lose some time with premove. I've actually lost on time despite having set a move ahead of time.
Same here. Although it's worth noting that you do get your time back for almost all premoves. I think it's due to when it does the time correction. Unfortunately if you only have a tiny amount of time left (less than 0.5s for me) then it flags you before it has corrected for any time loss.
I guess the whole issue is to learn the rules before you say that someone is cheating. Some think, "I lost, therefore my opponent must be cheating". If a player relied on pre-moves he would be destroyed by a good chess player. You cannot win on time alone without good tactics.
i think premove is kind of bs insofar as it allows people to move in a speed game without losing any time. that seems to defeat the purpose of speed chess. that said, everyone does it, so what can you say. don't understand why it's there in the first place though.
I've lost my queen due to premove.
Premove is definitely not cheating because it is not against the rules and is available to everyone. See how easy that was? I don't see the problem. After all, you are forced to make the move you set (unless illegal) and you may be taking a risk sometimes (if your opponent deviates). It's not all rainbows. Either way, if I am certain what move I will make, it makes sense that I can just send my move ahead of time and the software can make it when it's my turn. There isn't even a discrepancy between OTB chess since you are not moving on your opponent's turn, but right after it. My only complaint is that you cannot string together premoves or use conditional moves.
BTW: Due to some lag issues on chess.com you still lose some time with premove. I've actually lost on time despite having set a move ahead of time.
I've also lost games where I've made a premove. But I've also made 30+ moves, using 0/10 secs off my clock. So, what's up? Well the games I've lost where I've made a premove are ones where I've had _very_ little time (under 1 sec) remaining. So what I _think_ is going on is this: when the opponent makes the move, my clock starts, then they see that I've premoved, then they make the premove, then they say "oh that was a premove I should reset the clock back to what it was on previous move", so if you actually lose on time somewhere in that process, then you lose. :-(
I've used premove before. But sometimes, it messed me up. So, I just used it sparingly when my opponent takes more time, and I know my next move would be no matter what my opponent's move would be.
So here it is, finally. The long saught after answer of the time thing. Pre-moves are not chess to me, in real life you pre-think your moves but you cannot pre-move them in order of saving time. Chess won on time is lame to me. I think the time was implemented to keep one from stalling and to keep the game moving, not a tactical device for winning.
One other thing, is it due to pre-moves that a 1 minute game can end with both players having 5 minutes? This seems to inly happen when my opponant is losing and needs more time. Then poof the clocks are going backwards, mine too and i don't use pre-move???
Actually I've had people complaining about me 'cheating' too. Some people are glad for the info about premoves, some continue to call me a cheater, and some say that premoves shouldn't be allowed. I have to laugh at the middle group, since their own stupidity is causing them to play at huge odds against players in quick chess. Also, the very idea of playing 1 0 without premoves, is pretty hilarious. The most complaints I get are from people who throw away all their material by moving as fast as possible, and I obviously take longer since I have to change my mind to adapt to material winning tactics rather than just playing what I had in mind before their stupid moves, and then they get upset because they dont win on time because the endgame up 2 rooks, a bishop, a queen and some easily pushable pawns is too easy for me to play quickly.
Man you just said it all...the same happens to me most of the time!
So here it is, finally. The long saught after answer of the time thing. Pre-moves are not chess to me, in real life you pre-think your moves but you cannot pre-move them in order of saving time. Chess won on time is lame to me. I think the time was implemented to keep one from stalling and to keep the game moving, not a tactical device for winning.
I see your point, but the CHESS.COM live chess allows pre-moves. It is part of the live chess game. The 1 0 live chess is, by design, a diffenrent game than what you call "real life" chess.
I hate pre-moves - I think it can change the game completely and don't think they should be allowed. Sometimes people pre-move their first few opening moves - you can see because their clock stays on full time: good to throw in a surprise queen threat at this point and more often than not, you can take it!
cool i didnt know about pre-moves b/c i dont play live rlly
I always use pre-moves (its not cheating or hacking)
einstein thanks, I'll look it up, I tried tonight to do premoves at blitz but no good, does it only work in quick? I now see how som epeople can be so quick! I thought ssteevveenn was right and it actually came down to physical speed if you were evenly matched chess ability wise, this couyld mak ethings easier for me.
Anyway I'll check my settings