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How can White mate Black in 4 with Mirroring moves? (1.e4 e5 is mirroring moves)

 Give me all the examples you can make!


chessman3000

I have 1!


Davidmingming
Good!!! There's still more... :D
normajeanyates
I'd like to see one where white *doesn't* make any move which would lose if black did'nt mirror.. [this one doesnt qualify - as 3... BxQ]

normajeanyates

btw 3 days before this thread started LydiaBlonde posed the question and answered it with a solution essentially [but not exactly] the same as chessman3000's above.

forum category:  More puzzles

thread: Mate in 4 from the starting position if black play strictly simetrically


normajeanyates

i have mentioned it there also ; please try to shift to one thread - pooling of ideas and so on


Davidmingming
... There is none
normajeanyates

I should have more clear - I meant one taking more than 4 moves but where white doesnt lose so badly on black nonmirroring - ie doesnt drop a Q for B (or Q for nothing - as in the solution above by Davidmingming) on move 3 :)

say if we first try to find one (longer than 4 moves it has to be) where white risks *less* than 6 points [counting P=1, N=B=3, R=5, Q=9] on black nonmirroring -

or one where white risks 9 or more points *only if* black not only nonmirrors but finds a combination, however simple - even a fork, pin, skewer, check followed by picking up a piece?

or give a solution where, if black were replaced by another who only mirrors until it sees "less-points" piece attacking "more-points piece" - if so he grabs it, white would be less worse off than B for Q. [this is *not* the same as the prev - it forces the new black to capture "more-points piece" by "less-points piece" so it could include interesting solutions where white has set sac traps] 

(all these will be rather more than 4 moves, I grant)