A philosophy thread.

Hello. Welcome. To one and all.

In this philosophy thread everyone here is welcome to talk about how they see life and existence.

I'll let it run till 1000 posts. Please write in your own words and post links if you would like to refer to someone else's words.

Meaning of life. Do you know it? Perhaps it might be more sensible to say do you understand the fundamental nature of reality? I do. Darwin did. Still let's explore. Join me and we'll go down the rabbit hole. I'm late I'm late for a very important date!

Everyone is welcome to post here whatever their views. We all hold opinions about what matters in life and about what life is. So let's have a chat and think about what is.

Okay I'll tell you in one post the basic truth about life. Then I'm going to go offline.

There is no I. It's an illusion. Everything is nature. That's all there is. All there ever has been and there ever will be.

Natural forces and natural materials. Causality at work.

Nature created the universe and life and is controlling everything that happens. Nature isn't a being though. Everything just happens. Not for a reason but because of a cause.

Things like beauty and righteousness don't truly exist. All that's true is patterns. But that we love creates the illusion.

Think of a sunset. Beautiful no? Actually only a set of vibrations.

As for love just an evolutionary happening. Something that happens within nature.

Meaning of life. Meaningful to whom? There is no I.

Life neither is meaningful nor meaningless. It just is.

There is no death. Not really. Nature always has and always will exist.

I don't get it.

'Philosophy' musing, with a 'geo-political' twist. {linked}.

Actor, "Matt Damon".. would appear to have a point! - Short of 'moi' Not considering, his solution, personally viable. ..lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGE-9yrg5w

I still can't understand you.

i like this post...........i am agree.............all this is a drem..............it reminds me something that i heared some day............when you talk about you? who are you?......the body? the thoughts? or what?............if you say this is my hand.........it means that you are not your hand.............if you say these are my thoughts............it means that you are not your thoughts.............so, when you take  out all....................what reminds?.............who are you?.................where are you?

.........anywhay........i am sad for my loss...........i am thinking in close my account here..........it brings me so much memories......nobody can understand me i think........no one take serious the relation i had here for three years..............is ok.......or perhaps i will not connect more for a long time.................here in argentina it is 1 am now, and i am just back from the cinema....that movie made me forget all for some time.....it is a good efect..........when all of you are sleeping perhaps..........if you are not drunk of course..............jajajajaajaj..............now is very silent here....it is empty........is nice also........is a good chance to talk about all.......something i can not do now......see you people.....................i wish you all the best .................bisous!

Is she drunk?

She has a broken heart.

And is drunk.

I'll try to help you I like.

Listen.

Oh by the way Carolina I hope you stay. But I think love is there for you offline. It's not about online.

Yes and is drunk. Perhaps. No! She's been to the cinema. Anyway I like I'm about to answer you.

I suppose you understand the idea of evolution. Naturally I'm aware that Elroch is doing an amazing job of educating about evolution.

I'm not about to begin a deep analysis of it. What I will do is briefly sum it up then state its implications.

Evolution is about casualty. We all accept causality exists. The rain falls the rivers fill there's a flood. Cause and effect. With me so far.

Okay well look at this causality idea more deeply and combine it with nature.

We human beings naturally associate life with matter. But energy isn't only about matter. Natural forces exists independent of matter. An example of this is gravity.

So to start with all there was was natural forces. Guys it's helpful to remember at this time we are talking about a quantum world.

If you look into science a bit you'll find Newtonian physics don't hold true at the quantum level. The rules are different.

What happened though was that through causality these natural forces created matter.

Hawking speculates Gravity was the culprit.

With me still.

So matter now exists. Again nature through causality evolved life into being and the reality that you see exists now.

Hawking speculates that there are many universes without any life at all. There are highly unusual measurements here in our universe, he says if the forces that exists were just a little different life would not be possible.

But we live in a universe with those conditions hence we exist! The strong anthropic principle.

With me so far.

Okay well nature and causality didn't disappear. Everything really is as it was before. All a human being is is nature at work.

All our thoughts feelings and behaviours are a result of causality. Einstein talked about internal and external needs.

A human being superimposes a view of a being they call I upon what's really there which is just nature at work. Evolution.

The part of this whole idea I struggled with the most was that the love I felt rather than being 'me' was actually nature.

I learned though about prairie voles and found those with the natural capacity to love did love and those without didn't.

I finally understood there is no I. Even that we love we have no choice about. It's natural!

With me so far.

I'll continue later. Talk about how not only I isn't real but beauty and righteousness and free will are false ideas too.