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ilikewindmills
Dec 16, 2016
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r00d
Dec 16, 2016
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#22
alex-rodriguez wrote:
If all the philosophers dropped dead nobody would notice and nobody would care.
The tenure committee would notice.
Whether they would care is anybody's guess.
Of, minor solace, to 'Carolina'{?} well, ya never know .. 'Ghost dog' videos, on "YouTube."
P.s. Unrelated - My 'flag' icon, was somehow 'tampered' with! ..Ergo.. How, do I get it back, to showing, an 'internat'l flag'? -- As I'm located, over 200 miles, south, of {British Columbia}, 'Canada.'
Anyone, feel a need to waste, 10 minutes, of their 'Life'?! ..lol
"Andrew Hales" latest * "LAHWF"..{'losing all hope was my freedom'}, vlog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPb0xocQ-KM
Dec 17, 2016
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#26
Okay I'll just finish.
Well you see because all that's real is evolution then even human behaviour thought and feeling is a matter of causality.
Therefore truly there can be no such thing as beauty or righteousness. It's all just a pattern.
If a flood drowns a child we don't say the flood is evil or ugly. We accept that it's just causality at work. Nature.
To understand everything is to hate nothing.
Well you see because all that's real is evolution then even human behaviour thought and feeling is a matter of causality.
Therefore truly there can be no such thing as beauty or righteousness. It's all just a pattern.
If a flood drowns a child we don't say the flood is evil or ugly. We accept that it's just causality at work. Nature.
To understand everything is to hate nothing.
Dec 17, 2016
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#28
Okay finally there is no death. All that's real is nature and that always was and always will be the case. Everything is one. Separation is an illusion.
Comer, cagar, follar, y aprovechar lo que puedas pillar.
To eat, to sh*t, to f**k, and to take advantage of what you can catch.
Tomtalk escribió:
Okay finally there is no death. All that's real is nature and that always was and always will be the case. Everything is one. Separation is an illusion.
No. If you cut all the wires of a computer you have the same device there, but now is no more than a piece of junk.
Dec 17, 2016
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#32
I get this be an animal thing. That's about pleasure. Hedonism. Embrace life.
I suppose that's easier for some than others. If you are very poor or profoundly disabled that might be tricky.
Also life only lasts for so long. Is there a point to a moment of pleasure that's washed away like writing in the sand?
I expect though if our needs are met we are happy. Give the baby a bottle you know.
I'm just not sure that it's a sensible way to view existence.
Also it's selfish. I'm alright jack.
I suppose that's easier for some than others. If you are very poor or profoundly disabled that might be tricky.
Also life only lasts for so long. Is there a point to a moment of pleasure that's washed away like writing in the sand?
I expect though if our needs are met we are happy. Give the baby a bottle you know.
I'm just not sure that it's a sensible way to view existence.
Also it's selfish. I'm alright jack.
Don't take it to the letter.
Dec 17, 2016
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#34
As for the wire analogy. Well a computer has a purpose you know.
I don't accept that the universe has a purpose. If life is present or isn't only nature exists. Nature in terms of evolution doesn't have an aim.
It's interesting though that within nature goals arrive. The horse wants to run for the experience. An open field serves that purpose.
Unless you mean that an animal with and without consciousness is of a different value.
I suppose it's true that consciousness does bring changes.
It might be interesting to explore that.
Still pulp I wonder if you are like Pinocchio. You want to exist. You want to survive. It's a big step to relinquish the ego. I feel I've died during my lifetime. I accept all I am is nature.
I don't accept that the universe has a purpose. If life is present or isn't only nature exists. Nature in terms of evolution doesn't have an aim.
It's interesting though that within nature goals arrive. The horse wants to run for the experience. An open field serves that purpose.
Unless you mean that an animal with and without consciousness is of a different value.
I suppose it's true that consciousness does bring changes.
It might be interesting to explore that.
Still pulp I wonder if you are like Pinocchio. You want to exist. You want to survive. It's a big step to relinquish the ego. I feel I've died during my lifetime. I accept all I am is nature.
Dec 17, 2016
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#35
I understand that comment pulp. You are saying I think that it's experience that makes life worthwhile. Not just for you but for everyone. It's indisputable that if our needs are met we are happy.
But you know perhaps we need to know the truth to be happy. However disenchanting that truth is.
I suppose I would say that we are a code that exists within nature.
Though I accept consciousness is interesting. Comes down to enjoyment maybe though. But perhaps recognition of truth too. We can see truth. Nature can know itself.
But you know perhaps we need to know the truth to be happy. However disenchanting that truth is.
I suppose I would say that we are a code that exists within nature.
Though I accept consciousness is interesting. Comes down to enjoyment maybe though. But perhaps recognition of truth too. We can see truth. Nature can know itself.
TOM-TOM I'm thinking of writing a dissertation on "The Life Force" to deliver as a presentation at a meeting of Students at Malabo University in Equatorial Guinea" next year.Apart from "military" interests I did study "Philosophy" a while ago but put it on the back burner and focussed on pragmatic aspects of self-preservation in conflict!I would highly value some of your thoughts on this topic-I won't plaigarise but would distill and refine some of the points which you may deliver as the undisputed "Master" of things philosophical.Please do
Dec 17, 2016
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#37
Okay.
I like that. The life force.
Well energy exists. I know we see life as being material based but energy isn't material based. It can exist independently of matter.
I suppose there must be a pattern within nature that leads to the creation of matter. You could call this the life force.
It's funny we are all very aware of the fact nature contains a pattern of destruction ie entropy but how about its pattern of creation?
I suppose it's difficult to observe. It creates universes!
I like that. The life force.
Well energy exists. I know we see life as being material based but energy isn't material based. It can exist independently of matter.
I suppose there must be a pattern within nature that leads to the creation of matter. You could call this the life force.
It's funny we are all very aware of the fact nature contains a pattern of destruction ie entropy but how about its pattern of creation?
I suppose it's difficult to observe. It creates universes!
My point is there is a difference between being alive or dead (the way matter is organised makes a GREAT difference), not that there is a purpose in life. To me, the fact it doesn't have one makes it more worthy.
Dec 17, 2016
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#39
That life has no purpose makes it more worthy? This reminds me of the inherent value in life that Troy referred too. It's inherent meaning. Curious idea.