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I don t think it is true Carolina but you say it very convincingly...

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Ed @ 92.

Well. Einstein believed in absolute determinism, Hawking said not so.

Hawking states Maxwell's laws apply to biology and chemistry and it's true that as far as we human beings are concerned things are determined.

However at the quantum level things are different. Plank's constant states we can only know the speed or mass of a particle so it's not possible that everything can be determined.

I'm not a quantum physicist but I've seen enough to accept Newtonian laws don't apply when things get really small.

So while I would say free will doesn't exist and causality is king, I'd accept that at a quantum level things get random and trippy.

Or as hawking said God does play dice.
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No I'm not asking you to believe anything s23. I'm sharing my view.

I absolutely don't believe whether you accept it or not is something that you can control.

Don't believe me. Okay for the next five minutes try not to believe in God. Good luck. You'll need it.
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yes yes yes..............the observation changes the effect , the result of the observation.....

for example................you want to travel to france.................as i wanted...............but for some reasson always something happens............first the plane after the tikets, you arrive late, etc..............something external perhaps is determining that you can not take that flight......for some reasson you can not understand

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Hawking is illusion and doesn't exist so why should I care what he thinks?

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the only meaning of life i think is to discover who you are.............i think so............but we are so distracting with lot of things that can take us a long long long time..............

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The only meaning of life is Love...

 

cheers

 

my first whiskey

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I think that, 'Carolina' should enjoy this 'link'.. Provided, she's reasonably {English}, 'mult-lingual'!?.. I'm, your average "Ugly 'Americano' " mono-lingual! ] ; ..{subject - the 'out-of-body', 'sleep state'}.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnCyXoPlVl4&t=3769s

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Carolina 124 I like that.Its fundamental right. The hey I'm here. What am I, who am I?
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Tk do we need the truth? Perhaps it varies. I'm like Carolina. I want to know. Hawking knows his science. Science can lead to truth.
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Carolina Troy said don't start a family till you know the truth. That's dedication!
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Treesong you are a poet but buddy love is a part of nature. That's all it is. Think of a dog licking your hand. It loves you. 💕
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I don t believe in a God Tom at least most of the time not..I am an agnostic

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Hawking doesn't believe in God and neither did Einstein. Einstein said God doesn't play dice and hawking said God does. Just an expression to talk about quantum physics.
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I am a materialist tree. It means I believe in neither soul nor self.
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jajajajajaj..............you all makes me laugh thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Quantum physics is very complicated that is all I know really

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nice pic Carolina from Argentina..

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Does anyone reading this want to live forever? Give me chocolate cake a million times and I would scream. There are one or two things I'll never tire of!