Any update on the Coronavirus test of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in your countries?

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crusaderwabbet
JayeshSinhaChess wrote:

Chess.com is a wonderful platform, where people from all over the world congregate and we can have a large data pool of information to share with each other.

Coronavirus is a threat the world over and the whole world is awaiting some good news.

So the brightest spark of that has been the news that some experimental meds have been touted as potential game-changers, by Donald Trump.

Now I know that Trump's words are not often the most wisely chosen ones, but even so, a lot of other countries have subsequently allowed the use of those drugs to treat people, including India.

Now I am sure these decisions were taken on the back of far greater data backing than Trump said so.

However there have been limited updates on how effective these drugs have been so far. I know its only been a day or two and atleast a week would be required before drawing any conclusions.

But is there anything on this in the media of your own countries. Any news reports, any doctors saying something, etc. on how those trials have gone so far and whether there is any promise.

If so please share.

 

Regards

 

Very good question. Most likely the best information you can get would be from personal experiences and as for the news you need to weed out the facts from the agendas. They have found that over all hydroxychloroquine used with other compounds works very well as long as the patient is not too far gone. I know this to be a fact because my daughter is a nurse and they were amazed at the results.   

EscherehcsE
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

   I wouldn't risk my life on a stranger who joined 3 days ago &..."my daughter's a nurse". 

I wouldn't either, but if I do contract the virus, it looks like I might have to risk my life on a combination of a doctor's input and my own research. (I pay no attention to the politicians.)

I've learned over the years that nobody is more interested in my health than myself. :-)

crusaderwabbet
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

   I wouldn't risk my life on a stranger who joined 3 days ago &..."my daughter's a nurse". 

Nobody asked you to .  If one of your family was sick you would want them to take it?

notmtwain
crusaderwabbet wrote:
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

   I wouldn't risk my life on a stranger who joined 3 days ago &..."my daughter's a nurse". 

Nobody asked you to .  If one of your family was sick you would want them to take it?

No. It's been completely debunked at this point. It causes more problems than it solves. It is killing people with arhythmia.

crusaderwabbet

Hog wash. I have first hand experience. Even the doctors at the clinic are taking it as prophylactic. 

EscherehcsE
crusaderwabbet wrote:

Hog wash. I have first hand experience. Even the doctors at the clinic are taking it as prophylactic. 

Based on my reading, my overall impression of hydroxychloroquine (coupled with vitamin C, vitamin D, ZINC, and Z-pack) is still positive. However, notmtwain brings up the major concern - the potential for heart-related long QT arrhythmia, especially if HCQ is taken with Z-pack. My personal opinion is that I'd want to have an initial screening EKG, and maybe periodic EKGs during treatment.

Do you know if the doctors you deal with are using EKGs in conjunction with HCQ?

P.S. - The other possible treatment that's on my radar is remdesivir, but it's very scarce, I have no idea how expensive it is, and its "number needed to treat" is in the twenties; a decent improvement in recovery time, but far from the magic bullet.

Also, as an aside, I'm wondering if it's feasible to treat with both remdesivir and the HCQ/VitC/VitD/Zinc/Z-pack combo?

P.P.S. - I'm not a doctor...just someone not wanting to die from this thing. :-)

crusaderwabbet

I guess twain would let a family member die since he said no. There are several treatments in the works now and in the future. It is unlikely that a vaccine will be developed. Herd immunity is the best cure. 

crusaderwabbet

What angry posts, Ron. If anybody is angry it is you by what other members have said about you. I'm just conveying my experiences and call it as I see it. Have a nice day. 

DiogenesDue
crusaderwabbet wrote:

It is unlikely that a vaccine will be developed.  Herd immunity is the best cure. 

Wildebeests sometime ford not-quite-shallow-enough rivers by just pouring into them until there are enough dead bodies to make a bridge...

They use the same level of reasoning.

crusaderwabbet

What model of ford did they drive across the river?

JayeshSinhaChess

https://www.wionews.com/south-asia/bangladesh-doctors-claim-to-have-found-effective-drug-combination-to-cure-covid-19-patients-299247

 

Let us hope they are right.

SKIfreek05

they will be right. the human body gets sick once it knows how to fight it if it gets it again.

JayeshSinhaChess

COVID-19 Cure: Bangladesh Claims Success; Dr. Tarek Alam Who Is Behind Cure Speaks To India Today - YouTube

 

 

EscherehcsE

My goodness! I just about had an epileptic seizure trying to watch that news report!

notmtwain
crusaderwabbet wrote:

Hog wash. I have first hand experience. Even the doctors at the clinic are taking it as prophylactic. 

Is it good as a hog wash?

Because it's killing people who take it for coronavirus.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/hydroxychloroquine-chloroquine-linked-to-increased-risk-of-death-in-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-study-finds

JayeshSinhaChess
EscherehcsE wrote:

My goodness! I just about had an epileptic seizure trying to watch that news report!

 

Haha, was it the flashy overwhelming amount of flashing info on the screen?

EscherehcsE
JayeshSinhaChess wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:

My goodness! I just about had an epileptic seizure trying to watch that news report!

 

Haha, was it the flashy overwhelming amount of flashing info on the screen?

Yeah. I was only able to watch it for a couple of minutes before I gave up on it. How could anyone watch that channel on any regular basis?

Here's Dr. Been's take on the report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W3cqiR2C_M

(I hope this one doesn't get taken down by YouTube. YouTube has taken down some of Dr. Been's drug-related videos for no apparent reason.)

Spoiler alert - Right now, it's not even a study, just a news report. We'll have to wait for the details.)

JayeshSinhaChess

First I heard of this Dr. Been.

 

Who is he? He said he was a teledoctor. What does that mean exactly? Personally, the credibility of someone who is a teledoctor would not be very high with me as I am picturing one of those quacks who are on TV everywhere with a miracle drug for everything.

 

That being said he seemed sensible in what he was saying and his general body conduct and language to be fair.

notmtwain

Anyway, this thread was about hydroxychloraquine.

Now we know that is not only not a cure. It is killing people who take it.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/hydroxychloroquine-chloroquine-linked-to-increased-risk-of-death-in-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-study-finds

JayeshSinhaChess

You know the weird thing is in India, the medical body ICMR has said that it has found HCQ useful as a prophylactic.

 

https://theprint.in/health/hcq-breakthrough-icmr-finds-its-effective-in-preventing-coronavirus-expands-its-use/427583/

 

It is tough to balance out exactly what is happening around the world with all these contradictory findings.

I suppose it would help if you didnt already have Covid19 to take HCQ to avoid getting Covid19. However if you get it then HCQ is not so useful and could even be detrimental in some cases