Are Guns Evil?

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Suravira wrote:
Feufollet escribió:

It's a discussion that goes beyong the reality of American society, and the current polarizing politics about it...

Its deep moral-philosophical meaning is what has netted my mind onto the subject.

This.

Some people isn't arguing about weapons, but about who should be president. And is sad some groups made the guns their banner. Both democrats and republicans do things right and wrong, but protect the use of weapons is clearly wrong.

I'm not sure I follow you.

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Suravira wrote:
Feufollet escribió:

It's a discussion that goes beyong the reality of American society, and the current polarizing politics about it...

Its deep moral-philosophical meaning is what has netted my mind onto the subject.

This.

Some people isn't arguing about weapons, but about who should be president. And is sad some groups made the guns their banner. Both democrats and republicans do things right and wrong, but protect the use of weapons is clearly wrong.

Oy. What we are protecting is our right to own weapons. Twist the argument however you like, you're still wrong. 

And yes, it's just as pointless for me to say,"you're still wrong," as it is for you to say, "is clearly wrong."

Again, if have have a way to ban guns, tell us. If not, it's all just more hot air.

 

Regards,

Lou

P.S. I'm done here. No one will address the issue of how to actually do something that might get rid of guns, so a tenth page of this argument is too much for me.

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Well, despite my freedom to buy guns and have one in the house - I don't want it anywhere around me...it poses more risks than provide security...it is unnecessary in life...

The way to get rid of guns is to rid people of their paranoid psychosis that tells them they are going to be robbed any second of the day and that only the gun will save their lives or the other paranoid psychosis that they need it just in case the government decides to come after them. A very ridiculous idea that if the U.S. government - with the military power of both China and Russia combined - were to come after them they would be able to do anything about it.

So, it is a two-pronged solution in how to get rid of guns...

1. Eliminate collective paranoid psychosis

2. education ( first order of education being that 'government' is actually people they vote into office)

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Guns have been used for good from their inception for such things as defense, overcoming evil, hunting, sports, etc...

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Evil cannot be fought with bullets.

Because evil is energy that animates the thing it inhabits.

Bullets only spreads and expands it...infecting more of others.

To fight evil you must make the heart of man uninhabitable by evil.

If the heart of man is full with love, compassion Evil will be unable to enter our world.

I see personality clashes and bickering on this website...and that is okay because it is needed... and it is okay because underneath it all, I see they are grounded and anchored by their humanity and their capacity for love.

Disagreemenst and clashes is dangerous when one of the interlocutor's heart has become residence for evil...he/she is no longer anchored by his/her humanity, his/her capacity to love.

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Litwitlou wrote:
Feufollet wrote:

The gun - Evil's point of entry into this world...just laying in wait for one fuck-up to happen.

So the more evil (uncapitalized) enters the world, the more guns we buy. And the more guns we buy, the more evil enters the world. Buddy, soon everyone will be armed but you. I suggest you take a gun safety course before you purchse your gun.

Regards,

Lou

In such a world, man ...do you really think I would join in this bonanza of Evil? ....I'm already just waiting to get off humanity's train at the next stop...were I selfish I would have gotten off of it a long time ago.

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How evil enters into this world:

My mother's home was robbed by workers that were hired to tuckpoint and put a hood on her chimney. They stole the chimney lining. I believe they have been doing this for a long time. For whoever climbs to the top of the chimney to inspect after the workers are gone? I did.

Will I be their karma?

If I take action, they will lose their livelihood, their business will be shut down. By the looks of them, it is the only jobs they could ever hold. Misery will be upon this man and his family - as he does have family.

If I do not take action, they will continue their thieving activities, unabated, becoming bolder perhaps in their criminal behaviour.

I am in a bit of a conundrum.

The robbery was entirely unnecessary. They could have been simply making their living honestly.

Their criminal activities is what I consider puncturing holes in the fabric of our world for evil to enter.

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So, if the logic is to meet crime with bullets, should I  deal with this person in this manner (for what he stole in value is much higher than a breaking and entering where they might make away with a TV or a microwave...)?

 

No. The answer is no. And everyone knows it.

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Possible consequences of not having a chimney liner could be carbon monoxide fumes escaping and killing someone... death by gun or death by chimney... humans are culpable for their own actions.

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Babytigrrr wrote:

Possible consequences of not having a chimney liner could be carbon monoxide fumes escaping and killing someone... death by gun or death by chimney... humans are culpable for their own actions.

I would not dream of harming you in any way.

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Babytigrrr wrote:

Possible consequences of not having a chimney liner could be carbon monoxide fumes escaping and killing someone... death by gun or death by chimney... humans are culpable for their own actions.

Such violence coming from such a little itty bitty  babytigrrrr Laughing

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Chimney linings are not required by city ordinance by this particular city my mother's home is in...the burden then rests on me thus to prove that there was a lining there in the first place...only proof I have is that chimney is pristine...which shouldn't be after 20 years of use.

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Troll4ever22 wrote:
Babytigrrr wrote:

Possible consequences of not having a chimney liner could be carbon monoxide fumes escaping and killing someone... death by gun or death by chimney... humans are culpable for their own actions.

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Troll4ever22 - change your comment or I may have to block you.

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stuzzicadenti wrote:

BabyT is misinformed, in that situation the carbon monoxide escapes into the atmosphere contributing to global warming but does not target any specific individual but rather humanity as a whole.

geothermal/solar heating is the route to go --

but we live in capitalism, nothing gets done unless the moulah is there.

capitalism is the other root of evil...crime occur in the first place because of the idolatry of money and vanity of wealth

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Feufollet wrote:
Troll4ever22 wrote:
Babytigrrr wrote:

Possible consequences of not having a chimney liner could be carbon monoxide fumes escaping and killing someone... death by gun or death by chimney... humans are culpable for their own actions.

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Troll4ever22 - change your comment or I may have to block you.

Are you serious? It's a quote from a cartoon show.

Did you seriously think I would kill over a com......well actually I would but that's besides the point.

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before anyone goes off calling me a "commie" - I am not for that either.

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Troll4ever22 wrote:
Feufollet wrote:
Troll4ever22 wrote:
Babytigrrr wrote:

Possible consequences of not having a chimney liner could be carbon monoxide fumes escaping and killing someone... death by gun or death by chimney... humans are culpable for their own actions.

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Troll4ever22 - change your comment or I may have to block you.

Are you serious? It's a quote from a cartoon show.

Did you seriously think I would kill over a com......well actually I would but that's besides the point.

Yes, I'm serious...some jokes I do not find funny. There are cartoons and video games that I would censor....in my world anyway...

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Do you seriously want me to change my comment?

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Yes, because it is of extreme violence directed at another - even as a joke....you have been quite funny so far. But I do not think this is funny.

I'd be thankful for it.

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Comment changed.

But I feel dirty now.......

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