Good to see you Einstein.
lol I feel like a dope. When you said this, RonaldJosephCote, I thought you were lightheartedly being sarcastic to my long-winded post, not realizing you were referring to another member. (You posted right after me without quotation, so I assumed you were talking to me). =P
Anyways, carry on.
Not every comment is about you Battle. :P
A better descriptive term might be the big inflation, which Alan Guth discovered in the 80's. This extremely fast expasion of the universe was necessary to make the universe flat and isotropic. If it wasn't for this event we wouldn't be here today.
No place left for gods in modern science, isn´t it?. Gods are not needed anymore to explain the world around us. I understand that at the beginning of civilisation there were so many unexplicable phenomena that the temptation to invent some superhuman beings was overwhelming.
Nevertheless I think it is high time to dump all these never proven gods-hypotheses on the landfill of history. Too many of these religions are evil, they only make people harm and kill each other.
Religion isn't going away anytime soon. If it was outlawed, society would be even more of a mess. Citizens would likely take down the government.
Not every comment is about you Battle. :P
Yeah, ":P", Riley.
Quit trying to stir trouble. It's time to grow up a little.
Religion isn't going away anytime soon. If it was outlawed, society would be even more of a mess. Citizens would likely take down the government.
You really think so?
In spite of all that terror and civil war that is only motivated because other people believe in different gods?
I agree that it makes absolutely no sense to outlaw any religion - this would not only be a breach of freedom of opinion but also a violation of human rights.
Nevertheless I am pretty sure that a world without (most) religions would be a better one.
Winnie_Pooh wrote:
17rileyc hat geschrieben:
Religion isn't going away anytime soon. If it was outlawed, society would be even more of a mess. Citizens would likely take down the government.
You really think so?
In spite of all that terror and civil war that is only motivated because other people believe in different gods?
I agree that it makes absolutely no sense to outlaw any religion - this would not only be a breach of freedom of opinion but also a violation of human rights.
Nevertheless I am pretty sure that a world without (most) religions would be a better one.
We have religion for order and science for technology.If we had no religion,there would be more crime and more wars(over territory) because religion is a moral way to live.Without science,we would discover things much slower because science is a way to discover technology.Take away one or both then we would be facing civil unrest,wars,extinction(due to growing population which means we need more food and water which if rare,could cause wars),or all of the above.
Not every comment is about you Battle. :P
Yeah, ":P", Riley.
Quit trying to stir trouble. It's time to grow up a little.
Your "sense of humor" is unappreciated and unwelcomed. There is nothing relaxingly comedic about often treating my post that is directed to someone else as if its some intentional statement of self-absorbed arrogance. This isn't the first time you did this; you were not "joking".
Did you purposely gloss over the fact that RonaldJosephCote;s post appeared right after mine, causing me to mistakenly think that it was a response to me? Is it not an understandable error, especially when the content of JosephCote's post could be interpretted to follow my own?
So (a) it is...
No, (a) it is not, since I have humor and a "sense of respect" for myself.
Did you think your quick and simple statement would actually elude the rest of what I said?
In that case, it's just a misinterpretation of what I'm saying. I've never once intentionally implied anything about your character; you just think I am. I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Riley,
I don't appreciate your sense of humor. Certain ha-ha's are notwell-received by certain people. Do you understand that or not?
Winnie_Pooh wrote:
17rileyc hat geschrieben:
Religion isn't going away anytime soon. If it was outlawed, society would be even more of a mess. Citizens would likely take down the government.
You really think so?
In spite of all that terror and civil war that is only motivated because other people believe in different gods?
I agree that it makes absolutely no sense to outlaw any religion - this would not only be a breach of freedom of opinion but also a violation of human rights.
Nevertheless I am pretty sure that a world without (most) religions would be a better one.
We have religion for order and science for technology.If we had no religion,there would be more crime and more wars(over territory) because religion is a moral way to live.Without science,we would discover things much slower because science is a way to discover technology.Take away one or both then we would be facing civil unrest,wars,extinction(due to growing population which means we need more food and water which if rare,could cause wars),or all of the above.
The highlighted text looks very speculative to me.
Many religions are constructed as intolerant and commanding organisations that urge their followers to convert others (so called "non-believers") by all means even by the use of violence. This peer-pressure is destructive more often than not.
A civilised state does not need religions to make rules and laws. The strict separation between power and church in the Western world has proven to be a very sucessful arrangement.
Riley,
I don't appreciate your sense of humor. Certain things are not going to be well-received by certain individuals. Do you understand that or not?
Winnie_Pooh wrote:
17rileyc hat geschrieben:
Religion isn't going away anytime soon. If it was outlawed, society would be even more of a mess. Citizens would likely take down the government.
You really think so?
In spite of all that terror and civil war that is only motivated because other people believe in different gods?
I agree that it makes absolutely no sense to outlaw any religion - this would not only be a breach of freedom of opinion but also a violation of human rights.
Nevertheless I am pretty sure that a world without (most) religions would be a better one.
We have religion for order and science for technology.If we had no religion,there would be more crime and more wars(over territory) because religion is a moral way to live.Without science,we would discover things much slower because science is a way to discover technology.Take away one or both then we would be facing civil unrest,wars,extinction(due to growing population which means we need more food and water which if rare,could cause wars),or all of the above.
The highlighted text looks very speculative to me.
Many religions are constructed as intolerant and commanding organisations that urge their followers to convert others (so called "non-believers") by all means even by the use of violence. This peer-pressure is destructive more often than not.
A civilised state does not need religions to make rules and laws. The strict separation between power and church in the Western world has proven to be a very sucessful arrangement.
I was just going to say, not only is the informal fallacy committed here a slippery slope, it was a poorly formulated one.
If you look at the hate crimes committed against LGBT people, racial minorities and some more against women(!), a lot of it is based on the "teachings" of the bible. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind...both have committed an abomination and both will be put to death"; it is a sin to not stone one's daughter to death if she is not 'pure' during her wedding night (apparently, one of the ten commandments had taught against this behaviour in the first place); etc.
What we need to moderate excessive detrimental behavior is not religion but a moral code. That's why we have governments, and governments can exist without religion dictating it.
We could do some good ol' fashioned tar and feathering.
Judge not, lest ye be judged.. Stone me, what a lot of nonsense.
double ^^^
Ok, let me explain. The timing of my post was not intentional,(directly after Battle). I can see where it would be an honest mistake. I was going to bed and just happen to look quickly before logging out. Einstein was/IS a long time good member and friend. He's also a good Catholic but he's not young. You can always find him defending Catholocism and does it much better than me. He was away from the site for quite a while, so I was just happy to see that he's feeling well enough to contribute. My apologies if my responce lead to any misunderstanding.
Hey Ron, just got done with my painting season, probably be out here more often. 😊