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Oh, ok.

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potato08 wrote:

UGGHHH i said i hate cramped positions. 

"'Black proclaims by his symmetrical reply 1...e5 his firm decision to cross swords as quickly as possible with his adversary and (in spite of 'the move') to meet him on an equal footing in the centre of the board, whereas a passive reply such as King's or Queen's Fianchetto (1...g6 or 1...b6) would allow White to occupy the centre immediately and for good by 2 d4.'
'After the typical moves 1 e4 e5 we frequently see a lively struggle, seeking in particular to gain the mastery in the centre.'
'Each move in the initial stage must be telling, in other words, it must contain some threat of an immediate nature (attack on a pawn, an effective pin of a piece, unpinning, counter-attack, etc.), and a game of chess of this type resembles an encounter between two fencers where thrust and parry follow and offset each other.'
Savielly Tartakower (A Breviary of Chesss)
1...e5 is arguably the simplest and most logical reply to 1 e4, taking space in the centre and opening diagonals for the queen and bishop. It has been played by every world champion in the history of the game, and many of them played nothing else. ..." - GM Nigel Davies (2005)

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kindaspongey wrote:
potato08 wrote:

UGGHHH i said i hate cramped positions. 

"'Black proclaims by his symmetrical reply 1...e5 his firm decision to cross swords as quickly as possible with his adversary and (in spite of 'the move') to meet him on an equal footing in the centre of the board, whereas a passive reply such as King's or Queen's Fianchetto (1...g6 or 1...b6) would allow White to occupy the centre immediately and for good by 2 d4.'
'After the typical moves 1 e4 e5 we frequently see a lively struggle, seeking in particular to gain mastery in the centre.'
'Each move in the initial stage must be telling, in other words, it must contain some threat of an immediate nature (attack on a pawn, an effective pin of a piece, unpinning, counter-attack, etc.), and a game of chess of this type resembles an encounter between two fencers where thrust and parry follow and offset each other.'
Savielly Tartakower (A Breviary of Chess)
1...e5 is arguably the simplest and most logical reply to 1 e4, taking space in the centre and opening diagonals for the queen and bishop. It has been played by every world champion in the history of the game, and many of them played nothing else. ..." - GM Nigel Davies (2005)

I agree with Kindaspongey, cramped openings do benefit occasionally in some openings, so you can't just state that you don't like cramped positions. for example, the Sicilian. You said that you don't like the Sicilian defense, and I admit, it does give you a cramped position, but you are developed nicely and are off to a very good start and the position helps you win and lead to your victory.

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Whhhhyyyyyy???????????

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kindaspongey wrote:
potato08 wrote:

... the thing is i live in a place were scholastic chess is played by a lot of kids who play the italian or goocio piano (idk how 2 spell). all of the ppl my rating know how to play it so my coach says don't play it and i don't like that style.

As Black are you sure that there is something that you would like more? A book like First Steps: 1 e4 e5

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdf

would give you a lot of help with that Italian stuff, teach you a lot about chess, and maybe teach your coach a thing or two.

I agree with Kindaspongey, the books will help.

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Just Practice. Practice makes perfect as most folks and people say.

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It won't be hard, It's just about memorizing a couple of chess moves. How hard is that?

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kindaspongey wrote:
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I take what I just wrote back, because it's Nf6, not D6 sorry

The point is that one may well end up having to face 1 d4 and 2 c4.

However, your opponent playing the Queen's Gambit will not succeed because the game goes in different terms than before.

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Branch out in the Scandinavian.  Try the ...Qd6 lines, or the Icelandic Gambit/Portuguese Scandinavian (if you're not already.)

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potato08 wrote:

yeah but i hate memorizing a lot and im really bad at it.

"... the average player only needs to know a limited amount about the openings he plays. Providing he understands the main aims of the opening, a few typical plans and a handful of basic variations, that is enough. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)

"... If the book contains illustrative games, it is worth playing these over first ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)
"... I feel that the main reasons to buy an opening book are to give a good overview of the opening, and to explain general plans and ideas. ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)

"... i just want recommendations for my style (open, high developed.) ..." -potato08 (~7 hours ago)

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potato08 wrote:

... i can't play scicillian ... and french is too cramped for me. ...

 

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potato08 wrote:

... i live in a place were scholastic chess is played by a lot of kids who play the Italian ... all of the ppl my rating know how to play it so my coach says don't play it and i don't like that style.

 

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potato08 wrote:

... i don't like queens gambit

 

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potato08 wrote:

i don't like alekeines

 

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Have you considered that you are disliking so much because of other sorts of problems? Possibilities for other sorts of reading:

Simple Attacking Plans by Fred Wilson (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090402/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review874.pdf
http://dev.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Simple-Attacking-Plans-77p3731.htm
The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played by Irving Chernev (1965)
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/most-instructive-games-of-chess-ever-played/
Winning Chess by Irving Chernev and Fred Reinfeld (1948)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708093415/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review919.pdf

Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

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potato08 wrote:

… i play ... scandinavian nf6 variation. ...

I think that there are some sample games in:

My First Chess Opening Repertoire for Black.
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9050.pdf

https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/vincent-moret/

First Steps: The Scandinavian

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7777.pdf

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kindaspongey wrote:

Have you considered that you are disliking so much because of other sorts of problems? Possibilities for other sorts of reading:

Simple Attacking Plans by Fred Wilson (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090402/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review874.pdf
http://dev.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Simple-Attacking-Plans-77p3731.htm
The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played by Irving Chernev (1965)
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/most-instructive-games-of-chess-ever-played/
Winning Chess by Irving Chernev and Fred Reinfeld (1948)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708093415/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review919.pdf

Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

 

 

You dislike things too much. You only think about the flaws and cons. Did you ever think about the pros and the benefits to you during the game and in your position? Not to insult you but you're a bit paranoid and only cared about the bad effects. You never care about the pros and only care about deflecting other people's ideas. There is no perfect position. You just have to decide it upon your own taste and your own choices and hows they benefit your position and you yourself.

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I'm sooooooooo sorry sad.pngtear.pngsurprise.png

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I didn't mean to offend you.

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I'm just mentioning a problem that you have.