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Well if you were Captain Kirk...

@Conqistador: Kirk was the first one they ran DNA on.

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Let me put it this way. Regardless of his/her own personal opinion, I think everyone is aware that there is at least a large minority of people who believe with some conviction that somewhere in this universe we occupy, there are other intelligent beings. Might any of you be a person so convicted? I think most people will further accept that, among the people who think “we are not alone”, there are those who, without being crazy, think that there is a chance that someday, humankind will encounter such others. And there are actually real people who actively look for such others. I give you SETI. Now by a show of hands, who here thinks that people doing SETI are bonkers? If you have your hand up then, in my opinion, you are effectively disqualified from participating in the intent of this forum post (and let me say right here and for the record, that I know that I do not have the right to disqualify any poster from this forum, and would not do so even if I had that right. All posts are welcome and respected).

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Because if your hand went up to say that SETI is crazy, that would be rather like someone logging into a wine tasting and criticizing forum to say that wine is no good. All well and good, you’re entitled to your opinion, but we’re doing something here that we are entitled to do, please allow us to proceed uninterrupted. Have no fear, all know that there are many people who stand instantly ready to debunk any proposition, really. But I don’t see what anyone achieves by being the one to bravely stand forth and defend the faith declaring “ Hey! We don’t believe in !”, you fill in the blank. So anyway if SETI is not crazy, then consider that alien contact if it comes could come in an unanticipated way, anytime, anyplace, anyhow. Habeas corpus would seem to be the anatomical equivalent of SETI intercepting an alien sit-com. [I used the word ‘alien’ so let me say here that I personally have no idea and make no claims for where the skull may have originated. As I posted earlier, it is the Project that speculates that the likeliest explanation is that the skull has extraterrestrial roots. But so far as I know, the only “evidence”, of that, if you wish to call it such, is that “ain’t nothing like ‘im ever been seen anywhars around these yere parts”. Maybe he’s from the center of the earth, ever heard of the Hollow Earth theory? Maybe he’s from an underwater city of Atlanteans. Maybe he’s from a large community of aliens and has an apartment in New York City from which he time traveled into the past and died 900 years ago. I don’t know where the heck he came from. And won’t care until there is some evidence. So far as I’m concerned what we appear to have here is an anomalous non-human humanoid skull].

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So having generated a little heat here, let’s see what we can do about some light.

Taking the responses in order of posting,

@corrijean:

 1.      And then when the same guy shows me DNA studies that reveal that this person had 100% human mitochondrial DNA and 0% human nuclear DNA making it 100% non-human (a fertility doctor might be a good source for an explanation of how this could be. Pye explains it in detail for those who deign to review his website)

 I would have thought that the above quote from my earlier posting would have informed you sufficiently such that you would not have posted as “impossible” the very thing that I positively asserted without at least checking the source I gave. Well, OK, granted, it’s a lot to search an entire website for that particular piece of info, but at least you could acknowledged that I said it. Brief explanation: the nuclear DNA is removed from a donor egg and replaced with a foreign zygote. The resultant embryo is the full son and daughter of its parents with only the mitochondrial DNA of the egg donor but none of her nuclear DNA.

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 1.      Your quote beginning ‘The actual dna report says: "Single amplifications for fragments containing the diagnostic mutations….’ The DNA reports say much more than that, but you are correct in saying that that part is not evidence supporting the father not being human. That is supported elsewhere when Pye shows numerous long strings of DNA base pairs with no human match.

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Not looked too deeply into this as of yet but "half human" as corrijean put it could be relevant, there is no need for other lifeforms to have copulated with life found on earth as any ETs capable of getting to earth would surely be well aware of genetics and the manipulation thereof as is outlined in the sumerian texts with regard to the anunnaki, the story of the garden of eden is actually the same sumerian story although watered down somewhat and is about how humankind was created via genetic manipulation, the sumerians however gave much more detail, the serpent around the tree is actually a depiction of DNA, Hermes staff the same, ever wondered why it is the symbol of the medical field?

I could rant on for days about hybrids, nephilim etc but i seem to keep repeating the same things in various threads and not actually getting anywhwere so i would ask all here to please join my group "outside of the box" where i aim to compile as much info on these and other topics as possible.

Akhenaaten claimed divine descendency and was depicted at all times with an elongated head of which he was very proud his son Tutankhamun also according to something i saw also had an elongated head just thought id mention it.

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Your reference to AlienResistance.org. Wow! Did you really try to bolster your position by referencing an article by Robert Carter PhD of Creation Ministries International? Well OK, fair enough, just because a guy holds ideas that some may consider outré doesn’t make him wrong automatically. (That’s the whole point of why we’re here, huh?) I guess it’s just that having viewed your profile here on Chess.com and the groups you belong to, I might have thought this guy would be further down on the list than your very first choice! I read the 5 page rather technical article by a PhD credentialed writer who reveals at the end of his screed (yeah, I said it) that his motivation for writing is his Christian outrage at the suggestion that there might be soulless aliens walking around beyond the reach of God’s grace. Now, Dr. Carter’s article is all about the DNA results. Doesn’t mention the mountain of other evidence supporting Pye’s findings, but that’s par for the detractors. Well, we’ll give him that since he claims that’s his area of expertise. The sharp end and main thrust of his attack is that Pye is a lying trickster. Now let me say that I do allow for the possibility that Pye is lying. IF Pye’s lying then game over, excuse me for wasting your time, never mind. But anyone accusing Pye of lying has a long hard uphill battle to show it with all the documented evidence, corroboration, etc. he’s provided. Seems unlikely he’s even mistaken, let alone lying.

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@Bex1p: I hear you Bex. I'm fairly familiar with Sitchin having read all of the Earth Chronicles. Since you apparently are not yet familiar with the Starchild Project, it may interest you to know that Lloyd Pye, the directorof the project, is a proponent of Directed Panspermia a la Sitchin. Pye's got some videos on the subject.

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So what does Dr.Carter say? After first sharing that he  himself uses the Basic Local Alignment Search Tool of the National Institutes of Health, at the end of the section, he tries to discount its validity by saying that anyone can use it. And his objection to the Projects result? The Project obtained their result by deliberately entering gibberish into the program. This is not a scientific objection for which one needs a PhD to make, and is dishonest as well, since the only way Carter would have of knowing that the Project entered gibberish is Carter’s own pre-held conviction that the Project must be wrong.

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1.      No significant similarity found-for reasons why click here. I going to assume without checking that a discussion of that “click here” button (which was clickable at least at one time. I seem to recall clicking it myself) is still findable on the StarchildProject website. If I recall correctly, basically, all it does is provide list of possible reasons why no similarity was found. Kind of like when your operating system gives you a dialog box with a list of guesses as to why your computer’s not working. Maybe one of the guesses is correct, maybe none of ‘em. Dr. Carter seems to think this is a big deal. Mention of Trace Genetics By the way this article is old and outdated and contains much information since corrected. Suffice it to say (again relying on my memory) that at the time Pye used them, Trace Genetics was a student run enterprise, which lacked expertise in the existing technology, which existing technology was in itself inadequate for the job. It was later discovered that the students botched the job, and most of those findings were discarded when Pye was able to use a professional lab. Nearly all the above info is detailed in the videos linked to above. Break time.

I know of the starchild project just havent delved too deeply into it because i feel there is greater evidence elsewhere in the absolute certainty that there was an advanced technological civilisation on earth deep into the ice age certainly as far back as 10,000 b.c, when you accept that you have to think about how they acquired their knowledge and how long before.

I do believe it is highly likely aliens exist. I highly doubt they have traveled here. Any space exploration done at that great a distance would be much more likely to be done via nanobot than by physically sending people here.

Your sources are not high quality, SquareDealer. You are relying soley on the statements of a person who also promotes belief in Bigfoot and Planet X.

But obviously you believe those stories, too.

http://www.theness.com/index.php/the-starchild-project/

After this post, I'm out. I don't have enough time for an ongoing debate on this subject. So have fun discussing.

The fact is that there is a lump of calcium and other elements which is vaguely shaped like the skull of a primate somewhere in Mexico. Everything else is interpretation.