Not most people Jack. Just some and those are mostly old farts like me or maybe twice your age who have forgotten that there were not always so old and wise
I know. I try to explain myself well, they not even knowing me.
I point out my weaknesses, and I point out my strengths. I'm trying to create more of a, "raw character," and stop acting so much.
But then people put down my strengths and point out my weaknesses.
I know. It's life.
I've been active long enough to know what to do.
But I'm doing something I do not think many people do that much. Revealing myself.
Not working very well. Maybe I should hide behind my personality.
But I'm kinda tired of people doing that.
And yes, obviously
.... And making it up as we go along
Jack I will continue to defend your right to be here and stats your opinions but don't use words like "defeat" in reference to discussions. If you succeed in an argument over something you did not "defeat" your opponent. That's chess talk for one and puts people off. No one wants to be defeated especially in a discussion.
In a true debate everyone should win.
Jack I will continue to defend your right to be here and stats your opinions but don't use words like "defeat" in reference to discussions. If you succeed in an argument over something you did not "defeat" your opponent. That's chess talk for one and puts people off. No one wants to be defeated especially in a discussion.
In a true debate everyone should win.
That sounds hopelessly optimistic and not at all realistic.
Not at all, a true debate by bright minds should be beneficial to everyone.
The wrong assumption debates are about " winning" does not hold much water
Not at all, a true debate by bright minds should be beneficial to everyone.
Oh. Well, it's possible that no one loses a debate, but usually someone comes out on top.
There is no winning and losing in a debate unless in school. In real life, if both sides are mature, everyone benefits from the information learned
It's rare I come across those debates.
I always bring my rocket launcher to my debates
i would disagree. over moderation results in mutes for using the english language as it is normally used, and i'm not referring to cussing. that censors people.
on the other side, no moderation results in people making jack a s s e s of themselves.
if i look at the extremes and compare, erring on the side of less moderation seems the way to go. if you (or anyone) is offended, they can submit an abuse report to staff.
and, therein lies the rub. getting a response from staff can take weeks. less staff and more bots creates a crazy ride that sometimes shines the light on erik and jay about how they have bungled this.
the reason i specified english earlier is because a couple of bilingual members have pointed out how the bots are not "trained" to recognize virtually any offensive spanish terms.
when someone writes something you or another deems offensive, you are not required to respond.
You're a complete hypocrite, who blocked me about five years ago, because you disagreed with an opinion, tried to bully me and I wouldn't back down. Yet you dare to talk about "over-moderation"?
you continue to spout this nonsense.
you behaved like a coward in a topic about covid around a year ago. your cowardice was blocking me after responding to something i wrote.
as with your bile in that topic, your 'facts' are wrong.
I think Jack is one of the more bearable young people here. I don't find him "irritating" just young.
All my self correcting and my occasional grammar mistakes, not to mention my troll forums and writing style when I'm with other kids definitely give the impression I'm a kid.
But, I'm tired of people using it as an excuse to make my opinions less worthy.
Young people can bring a new perspective to the world. If anything, your opinion would be MORE worthy, but everyone’s opinion is equal.
i think it is ironic that it is me responding to this instead of a septuagenarian that has taught history.
just because youngsters have opinions does not make them more worthy.
you are defending a person that admits to making troll forums. that is childlike behavior that provides no perspective other than showing how the poster should stay out of adult conversations.
young people can present a point of view that others may not have seen. that is true. to say that a perspective on the world should be one viewed through the lens of teens is crazy. so, no, everyone's opinion is not equal. where history, politics, and current events are concerned, most under the age of 20 here don't know jack compared to us that have lived through these things and have forgotten more than some know.
If you read what I said....................Jack is bearable. I don't discount anyone's opinion. Because many (most) young people here are dopes does not classify them all as such. My age has no bearing on opinion. I don't attack the messenger unless they 1. are obvious idiots, 2. continue to press their point after being shown with evidence to be wrong. I repeat my opinion of Jack. He is more bearable than most his age here. I was a teenager once (were you?) I remember what I thought of adults and what they thought of me. I do not intend to make that mistake in my old age.
i was not responding to you, but, since you decided to react in a condescending way...
i do not care what your opinion of jack is. if you choose to engage teenagers here in conversations about history and politics and perpetuate that an opinion with little or no knowledge behind it matters, have at it.
was i a teen? gee, how do i answer that?
when i was younger, i spent much time with my nose in books. i did not argue positions that were beyond my knowledge. jack mentioned the debt and i asked he join a group to tell us all his thoughts on it. in my opinion, his view is one his parents share and he is simply repeating it.
2. Yes no one's opinion can be more worthy unless they prove it with facts and therefore opinions of 'adults' are also not more worthy.
3. Do you behave the same way (the 'adult' way) with everyone you meet and talk to (children, same age, elders?). Must be very boring. He is doing things he enjoy doesn't mean he cannot have a serious opinion or 'adult' conversation. And how about the 'adult' who agreed to let a 8 year old join their team if (s)he is 2000+ and that women need to have a talking option on site (and against if children are using it)
(Also, I have nothing against these adults. I completely respect their opinion. Just pointing out what, in my opinion, is hypocrisy)
4. Yes only from teens pov is crazy but there opinion is equal until you prove it wrong. What does it matter that you know more on the issues you 'adults' are responsible for creating? If the 'adults' are so smart, why are they not solving the issues they have put the world into?
1. Oh so you now say that those in 30-60 year range are more 'adult' than 70+? How is it decided? Where are the rules written?
#3. i can't speak to what others have done regarding allowing kids in groups. not sure why you felt you needed to include that.
my responses are consistent, even with those i deal with personally.
#1. huh? who are you speaking to?
not that getting points across in any particular order matters, but, when you post like this and the bullet points are out of order, it reflects.
finally, your assumption that one's opinion is correct until i prove it wrong is, well, wrong. it is not my duty to straighten out random 14 year old john does' that think they know it all on this chess site.
i am a member of two discussion groups where issues are discussed from a point of view that is not based on random thoughts or random garbage from facebook.
Well put. I have discovered that a small percentage of players post here. But a large percentage of those who do are either pompous geriatrics or jabbering kids. Maybe there should be a section for middlies :) :)
Censorship leads to the silencing of a group or groups, then to rebellion by the censored group(s), then comes demonization against censored group(s) which is usually lead by a government propaganda campaign... Sadly censorship almost ALWAYS leads to genocide and mass culling of dissidents. I understand this is about Chess.com censoring, but a quick look around and it's easy to see that we're currently living in a "society" that is being ruled by censorship, division, propaganda, groups already being demonized and that's just the tip of the proverbial iceberg! Censorship on this site is a microcosm of the bigger detriments at hand...
But I've defeated many people in arguments, when I know about the info. Just because I'm an inexperienced kid doesn't make me useless, even if you say that in the nicest possible way.
Also, looking at your comments from other threads, you don't seem to get along with many, so I'm not surprised to see you attacking me.
"defeated" people in arguments? ok, let's assume you misspoke there.
no one said you are useless. again, we have comments assigned that have not been made.
regarding my posts, you don't know jack. i've been on this site since before you could walk or talk. i have made friends here where we speak outside of this site. i also have disagreements with some that are friends, and we remain friends.
i also spend the majority of my time here now in groups, speaking with other adults.
i'm not saying your opinion does not matter, but, in my experience, most under the age of 20 have a hard time keeping up with serious topics and know little about current events.
if i was wrong about you, you would have joined the discussion group and written your view on the debt. how about this-what are your thoughts on the plane forced to land in belarus?
my guess would be that you don't know the first thing about it.
But I've defeated many people in arguments, when I know about the info. Just because I'm an inexperienced kid doesn't make me useless, even if you say that in the nicest possible way.
Also, looking at your comments from other threads, you don't seem to get along with many, so I'm not surprised to see you attacking me.
"defeated" people in arguments? ok, let's assume you misspoke there.
no one said you are useless. again, we have comments assigned that have not been made.
regarding my posts, you don't know jack. i've been on this site since before you could walk or talk. i have made friends here where we speak outside of this site. i also have disagreements with some that are friends, and we remain friends.
i also spend the majority of my time here now in groups, speaking with other adults.
i'm not saying your opinion does not matter, but, in my experience, most under the age of 20 have a hard time keeping up with serious topics and know little about current events.
if i was wrong about you, you would have joined the discussion group and written your view on the debt. how about this-what are your thoughts on the plane forced to land in belarus?
my guess would be that you don't know the first thing about it.
Yeah, you're right. I thought I knew a lot, but it seems I've gotten too far in.
I don't know much on politics, but I do have an opinion.
And, honestly, all the arguments I've gotten into, (for some reason it's changed,) It used to just be a full out brawl, until either the other person refuses to address me and leaves, which I count as a win though others don't,
But now it's not like that anymore. Instead, no one wins, people just get their opinion out more. I don't know what changed, probably me.
Jack I will continue to defend your right to be here and stats your opinions but don't use words like "defeat" in reference to discussions. If you succeed in an argument over something you did not "defeat" your opponent. That's chess talk for one and puts people off. No one wants to be defeated especially in a discussion.
Ok. I'm being overly dramatic. Got it.
You know, most people don't even want me here, and I'm tired of explaining myself over and over. I think I'll just leave.