Comp1- Easy is a huge hacker!

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FortunaMajor

Chess.com does not like unfair play. I recently discovered that Comp1- Easy, a staff account of Chess.com, uses hack to win his games. I also have definite proof. I was playing a series of 10 second matches with Comp1 and after 2 or 3 games, I started looking at the time coloumn. I was shocked to see that, while I lost time with every single move, Comp1's time bar wasn't even showing, proving his use of some sort of hack.

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2138470215

 

You can see for yourself that Comp1's time isn't even showing up. Even after 30 moves, Comp1 still had 10 seconds on his clock, the same time we started with. Notice that the game didn't have any bonus time.

I cannot tolerate this! I lost my winning streak and a couple of rating points for this!

 

UPDATE: As it turns out, it is neither a bug nor hack. My bad. The computer is just too fast. 

Martin_Stahl

The account is not a staff account really. It is an automated computer account. You might bug report it (Help (?) > Report a bug) but it is very possible that it is moving immediately after receiving your move and thus is getting it's move in less than the time reflected in the time graph. 

 

Apparently it is actually possible to move faster that 0.1 seconds; it happens on regular games on occasion.

CookedQueen
aravinds_ll wrote:

Chess.com does not like unfair play.

 

That is your conclusion after you played against a bot? Where's the logic?

 

aravinds_ll wrote:

I also have definite proof. ...  I was shocked to see that, while I lost time with every single move,

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2138470215

The first move didn't cost you time at all.

 

aravinds_ll wrote:

I lost my winning streak and a couple of rating points for this!

You need tissues?

 

Why don't u play real player instead of a computer? Never read such a bizarre and hilarious complaint about an internet-bot. Next time u complain about the computer not being gentle-like to you, am I right?

Bonsai_Dragon

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FortunaMajor
CookedQueen wrote:
That is your conclusion after you played against a bot? Where's the logic?

 

Actually, it was the introduction of this forum.

FortunaMajor

 The first move time issue is also a problem. I don't understand why the first move doesn't cost me any time.  

As for playing with a computer, I did so in hopes of crossing 2000 in bullet. Every time I lose, I am losing 11 points or so but when I am winning, I get only 3 points. In such a situation, how can one not complain?  

 

P.S: I hate tissues. Especially the ones which are white in color.

FortunaMajor
superman0101 wrote:

its a joke guys

A joke? You think so? Is that why I followed @Martin_Stahl 's advice and reported the 'bug'?

macer75

Wow... you played 30 moves in 10 seconds?

FortunaMajor
macer75 wrote:

Wow... you played 30 moves in 10 seconds?

Have to keep up with the computer. But 30 moves/s is not enough. You have to go something like 50 moves/s.

CookedQueen

Actually you've been damn fast, so many moves with 0,1 sec decrement.

Then it's even more a pity to see the computer has unlimited time in a 10sec game. Some people would bite into the keyboard then.

FortunaMajor
CookedQueen wrote:

Actually you've been damn fast, so many moves with 0,1 sec decrement.

Then it's even more a pity to see the computer has unlimited time in a 10sec game. Some people would bite into the keyboard then.

Yeah. The one thing Chess.com could do about this is to decrease Comp1's time by at least 0.3 seconds every 10 moves.

Martin_Stahl

I'm actually a little surprised all moves don't take at least 0.1 second since that's what premoves take grin.png

FortunaMajor
Martin_Stahl wrote:

I'm actually a little surprised all moves don't take at least 0.1 second since that's what premoves take

These are the times I wish I had the power of a speedster.

CookedQueen

What a premove should take needs to be defined and likely is already. 0.1 sec for a premove actually would also cheating the honest player! That's because he decided for that move within his own time and/or within the time of the opponent. Without question decrementing a premove by 0.1 sec would be dishonest against the player doing the premove.

 

But how it's done inside the algo is part of the developers and people specifying the workflow. Speculation doesn't help anyone. Dev's should be aware of the game posted by the topic opener and hopefully improve the current situation.

Martin_Stahl
CookedQueen wrote:

What a premove should take needs to be defined and likely is already. 0.1 sec for a premove actually would also cheating the honest player! That's because he decided for that move within his own time and/or within the time of the opponent. Without question decrementing a premove by 0.1 sec would be dishonest against the player doing the premove.

 

But how it's done inside the algo is part of the developers and people specifying the workflow. Speculation doesn't help anyone. Dev's should be aware of the game posted by the topic opener and hopefully improve the current situation.

 

Premoves do take 0.1 second. 

 

https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444864-what-are-premoves-and-how-do-they-work-

 

and have for quite a while. At least a couple of years.

CookedQueen

That doesn't change anything from my posting. Whats your additional point? I don't repeat my posting.

Martin_Stahl
CookedQueen wrote:

That doesn't change anything from my posting. Whats your additional point? I don't repeat my posting.

 

Your post seemed like it was questioning if the the 0.1 seconds on a premove is actually true ("speculation doesn't help anyone"). I was clarifying the point and referencing the place where it is defined.

 

I apologize if I misunderstood your point.

CookedQueen

"to be defined and likely is already" Ok, your information may be right, you know a lot about the things here. 0.1 is not fair imho but that's another point. Maybe the devs can do something on the topic openers 'problem'.

Martin_Stahl

Yeah, when it was first implemented there was a lot of discussion in the forums about it. Don't recall the specifics but remember reading some of the posts. 

GM_chess_player
macer75 wrote:

Wow... you played 30 moves in 10 seconds?

I've played 50 moves in 10 sec and crushed an WFM.