ok david i will see how debate goes for me , ronald i spent little time in od forum , most of my time was taken up with the loony godsquad in group notes , , they ruined the group for me so i went i dont need their shit in my view everyday
re starting new groups ,,, im of a belief cc has way too many groups lol , besides the groups are in place already but some fail at the task before them
I've been in many and they do, as you say, fail in their task. We should perhaps consider why and try again.
Chess.com strapline: Your opinion is important to us, as long as it's positive, doesn't cause us any work and keeps the bucks rolling in. If anyone doesn't like it, you know what you can do.
Nice.
'Jus be shuttin up now & fall into line, do as ya be told now, or ya all be takin into the swamp & chucks...... no one might see you again. Don't keep goin on now, we shoot folks like you. God bless ya all'
I accept that it would be a difficult task to monitor every post but it seems that potentially political threads receive strict observation, some being closed, we're told, due to complaints. I'd ask why complaints against offensive remarks aren't even acknowledged, let alone actioned.
A very good question, an example here...
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/international3?lc=1#last_comment
Have you reported it?
I doubt that the moderators' livelihood depends on the largely volunteer work they do on this site. Erik's does, which is why he's the person you need to convince. that's why nik posts as he does. it is assumed by many of us that you, david, as a staff member, will convey concerns of members. But consider this: what's going to help Chess.com grow more? i'm responding before your questions. yes, sponsoring events may matter to some, but, is it global, as the forums are? what is the viewership of gm games compared to forum activity at the same time? Changing the way the forums are moderated, or getting more events like the Grandmaster Blitz Battles going? Sponsoring chess tournaments? Delivering more variants? The forums aren't broken, no, they've never been broken, as you wrote, but there seems to be little or no influence from members that are regular forum posters. even if they're not quite to your liking, and so very little is going to change unless a clear pain point appears, such as these black magic spammers - that HAS gotten his attention and he's finally marshalled the resources to close the door more effectively on them, which is a great relief to the moderators who have disabled literally hundreds of accounts over the last month (408 of them, in my case). This is not getting his attention - maybe if you spam his profile wall with the wall of text you posted above, that might make a difference. Or wait until he chooses to hold another "State of Chess.com" thread. Or putting it into a Support ticket. That's what works - it might not be what you like, but really, people are just going to stop listening if you keep on about it.
I think that's about it from me on this subject - I'm out. Good luck with it!
people like nit know there are two things that drive the site for the majority of people-ability to play chess and talk.
They're the reasons I joined this site Al. Plenty have left due to the problems we've discussed, not liking the allowance of foul and abusive behaviour but sanctioning those who enjoy political discussion and banter. I'm sure the latter could accomodated. If Open Discussion has been established and is home to the 'beasts of the jungle', without any rules applying, then there's no reason why forums for current affairs can't be discussed while adhering to the main rules of the site that we all agree with regarding abuse and language.
Chess dot com is owned by: Alexa Internet, Inc. a California-based company that provides commercial web traffic data and analytics. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Amazon.com. In short we are lucky to be tolerated and have no cause to compain. Even Winston came to love the system and so should we.
Well well.
Chess dot com is owned by: Alexa Internet, Inc. a California-based company that provides commercial web traffic data and analytics. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Amazon.com. In short we are lucky to be tolerated and have no cause to compain. Even Winston came to love the system and so should we.
Erik owns chess.com
The rumour goes that resistance or independent thought is destroyed when Winston is forced to accept the assertion 2 + 2 = 5.
A phrase which is said to represent obedience & reverting to become an unquestioning member who loves what he is told to love. 
If you have more info Damocles then now it's time to post it 
Chess dot com is owned by: Alexa Internet, Inc. a California-based company that provides commercial web traffic data and analytics. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Amazon.com. In short we are lucky to be tolerated and have no cause to compain. Even Winston came to love the system and so should we.
No idea where you got that from: a Google search turns up http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=234603326
So it seems that Chess.com is actually incorporated as a limited liability company, with Erik as CEO and Jay as CTO, which makes a lot more sense than a web traffic data company.
Chess dot com is owned by: Alexa Internet, Inc. a California-based company that provides commercial web traffic data and analytics. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Amazon.com. In short we are lucky to be tolerated and have no cause to compain. Even Winston came to love the system and so should we.
No idea where you got that from: a Google search turns up http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=234603326
So it seems that Chess.com is actually incorporated as a limited liability company, with Erik as CEO and Jay as CTO, which makes a lot more sense than a web traffic data company.
david,
Post #167 is called not knowing what youre doing.
I have been fascinated as of late by something called 'perception management'.
Extract below:
Organizations use perception management in daily internal and external interactions as well as prior to major product/strategy introductions and following events of crisis. Life cycle models of organizational development suggest that the growth and ultimate survival of a firm is dependent on how effectively business leaders navigate crisis, or crisis-like, events through their life cycles.[5] As suggested by studies,[6][7] organizational perception management involves actions that are designed and carried out by organizational spokespersons to influence audiences' perceptions of the organization. This definition is based on the understanding of four unique components of organizational perception management: perception of the organization; actions or tactics; organizational spokespersons; and organizational audiences. The organizational perceptions is further classified into three major forms namely organizational images, organizational reputation, and organizational identities.[8]
Perception Management Events: Perception management is often used by an organization in the following major events:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_management
At the very least, one person will know why this extract & article link is posted here.
Interesting concept.
Sorry I did get that wrong, Alexa only measure the performance. I always imagine smaller comanies to be owned, or have sold many shares, to bigger ones.
Poor research. When it comes to computers I should stick to my Luddite W times table WWI,WWII,WWW
Apology accepted Damocles, well, by me anyway Back to the OP though, I've not noticed any bile or abuse for a while so maybe word's getting around. This could be either because admin have indeed clamped down or that the posters of abuse have realised that they do little except make themselves look ridiculous. Either way, it's an improvement.
Newspeak is the fictional language in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, written by George Orwell. It is a controlled language created by the totalitarian state Oceania as a tool to limit freedom of thought, and concepts that pose a threat to the regime such as freedom, self-expression, individuality, and peace. Any form of thought alternative to the party’s construct is classified as "thoughtcrime".
Newspeak is explained in chapters 4 and 5 of Nineteen Eighty-Four, and in an appendix to the book. The language follows, for the most part, the same grammatical rules as English, but has a much more limiting, and constantly shifting, vocabulary. Any synonyms or antonyms, along with undesirable concepts, are eradicated. The goal is for everyone except the Proles — the working-class citizens of Oceania — to be speaking this language by the year 2050. In the meantime, Oldspeak (current English) is still in common usage with Newspeak interspersed into conversation.
(Extract above from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak)
There are a number of correlations in the above extract you will notice which are applicable here at Chess.com with its current policies.
When you limit or try to shuffle off some issues into a backwater, which probably would seem like you have landed in a scene from the movie Deliverance, you are then effectively, as in the movie, trapped.
'It sounds like hillybilly country there boy' is what I hear people here complaining about in the recommended sectors by the mods. Coerced to go in there, fight your way out.
And that is what it is, isn't it 'a sectioned off facilty', a break away from the main forums, kind of like a prison like enviroment if you will, deep in the south, in the marshlands.
Where security is tigher or perhaps lighter, where you are freer to express to those who regularly play on banjos & all is 'friendly in the forums', once again.
'Yippee, do da'
Now, I think most of us here get the restrictive policing or controlled language where certain individuals are a threat to the regime i.e. Chess.com
However, the other side borders on the absurd when you look at it under such umbrella terms as 'religion & politics'.
Let's brief some areas that come under these topics shall we?
Current affairs History Geography (how did countries become countries?) Economics Enviromental issues Terroism & wars Oil & Earth's natural resources Education & propaganda Chess (try discussing Bobby Fischer without including the Cold War era & its influence)The above is not an exhaustive list by any means. The point being is: 'try' to reflect or/and discuss any of the above WITHOUT the inclusion of politics and/or religion.
You will end up with a fragmented structure that make little sense.
Small wonder why the forums seem so empty as of late. Just a post or two about either topics can get some forums closed.
David, I am kind of bored with you repeating the same answer to every one who challenges the status quo here.
'Oh go to swamp land with the rest of the morons, so we can keep an eye on you. And you can fire on one brain cell & still fit in admirably'
How about considering some opinions on here & 'opening up' other options? It is getting to be highly constrictive & you guys are tightening it up for sure.
Therefore, in order to try to fit in with the controlled language, suppression of expression & individual freedom of Orwell like proportions, I am going to practice the same privileges below as a means to fit into a totalitarian ethos.
Sodsprawn you are banned from commenting on any of my posts, by leiu of your evangelical consistancy of beating the same fundamental drum over & over again.
I am recommending you go to swamp land, take your banjo with you too, as you will fit right in.
(which is exactly what you have been saying to others on here, over & over again and so too have you David)
Themn i would suggest any of the following:
Buy chess.com from Erik.
Start your own chess site.
Start your own group.