Controversial Topic (Creation vs Evolution 2?)

Sort:
Avatar of gingerninja2003
VicountVonJames wrote:
@gingerninja2003

Especially if they were convinced to do so by an evil super genius.

Also didn’t god know all this tempting was happening to Adam and Eve- and he knew what the outcome would be- yet he just... did nothing and then punished us all for eternity because of it?

I'm shocked this discussion is happening anyway. They ate fruit; from a tree. The maximum god should've done is give them a written warning.

Avatar of USArmyParatrooper
jaredjm wrote:

If you did, you wouldn't be believing yourself, you'd be altered by God Himself, which would be pointless. 

If I convince you that Sacramento is the capital of California by showing you evidence, did I alter you in someway? No?  OK do you want to try again? 

Avatar of USArmyParatrooper

 

So God won’t show as convincing evidence, but if we don’t believe we are punished. But he is also omni-benevolent. 👍

Avatar of JustOneUSer
Also weren’t their “eyes opened” after they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

And if the tree was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil surely-surely it stands to reason that after eating from this tree, only then did they have the knowledge to know good from evil?

So before eating, when they committed the sin, they did not have the knowledge of good and evil and so were at least partly unable to understand the “evil nature” of their actions?

A written warning and maybe a one month ban certainly sounds a lot more fair.
Avatar of Nemo9566
If god exists, where’s the proof? How do YOU know?
Avatar of Nemo9566
Because all of these horrible things happen and if it’s the fault of two people, why would the animals(I.e deers) have to suffer the same?
Avatar of Nemo9566
The deer didn’t eat the apples. So why do they get the same punishment as the person who did the crime?
Avatar of MustangMate-inactive

Because ... because they are one in the same?

Avatar of MustangMate-inactive
kgollamudi wrote:
If god exists, where’s the proof? How do YOU know?

The proof is all around you. You'll know. Sometimes a sledge hammer falls square on, sometimes it's the butterfly that flies by. Till then, it's good to question "How is one to know?"

Especially by those who do not know  wink.png

Fencing sitting does not count. No agnostic nonsense.

Either you know it's this way ... or that way. Can't have both.

Avatar of Junebug444

It's been a while since I've poked my head in this thread...

How did the conversation go in this direction? Lol, still fun to read, though. Also, hey @eryxc, sorry I didn't respond earlier.

Avatar of USArmyParatrooper
MustangMate wrote:
kgollamudi wrote:
If god exists, where’s the proof? How do YOU know?

The proof is all around you. You'll know. Sometimes a sledge hammer falls square on, sometimes it's the butterfly that flies by. Till then, it's good to question "How is one to know?"

Especially by those who do not know 

Fencing sitting does not count. No agnostic nonsense.

Either you know it's this way ... or that way. Can't have both.

 And yet you haven’t provided any of it. 

Avatar of eryxc
Junebug444 wrote:

It's been a while since I've poked my head in this thread...

How did the conversation go in this direction? Lol, still fun to read, though. Also, hey @eryxc, sorry I didn't respond earlier.

Lol hi juny! And yes it is still fun to read lol

Avatar of JustOneUSer
Hi Juny haven’t seen you in ages
Avatar of Junebug444
VicountVonJames wrote:
Hi Juny haven’t seen you in ages

How goes it, Vicount? It's great to see you around happy.png

Avatar of JustOneUSer
It’s going good, good to see you
Avatar of eryxc

I like a quote from CS Lewis too!

Here it is: Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.

-CS Lewis

Avatar of eryxc

Ty happy.png

Avatar of eryxc

Lol

Avatar of dbeleiu

Very valid point.

Avatar of USArmyParatrooper
SoulMate333 wrote:

Well, we often post verses (as I did), not to prove the Bible but to reveal the truth that is in it.  I could have just used my own wisdom or C.S Lewis' (which I did)... what does it matter. 

The Bible makes claims. I could just as easily say Harry Potter “reveals truths.” But can I demonstrate it? No more than you can demonstrate the Bible reveals truths.

This forum topic has been locked