This was for the Israelite law, when they were a theocracy, ruled by God. In present time we are not ruled by God, so we should not -- I admit -- use the Christian moral law for civic law.
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Aug 17, 2019
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#463
jaredjm wrote:
This was for the Israelite law, when they were a theocracy, ruled by God. In present time we are not ruled by God, so we should not -- I admit -- use the Christian moral law for civic law.
Slavery is one of the most horrible things ever done by humans, and you are justifying it because it was ruled by god.
gingerninja2003 wrote:
jaredjm wrote:
This was for the Israelite law, when they were a theocracy, ruled by God. In present time we are not ruled by God, so we should not -- I admit -- use the Christian moral law for civic law.
Slavery is one of the most horrible things ever done by humans, and you are justifying it because it was ruled by god.
yes? They enslaved the Canaanite cultures, who were performing abominable actions against God.
i.e. it was just
Aug 17, 2019
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#466
jaredjm wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
jaredjm wrote:
This was for the Israelite law, when they were a theocracy, ruled by God. In present time we are not ruled by God, so we should not -- I admit -- use the Christian moral law for civic law.
Slavery is one of the most horrible things ever done by humans, and you are justifying it because it was ruled by god.
yes? They enslaved the Canaanite cultures, who were performing abominable actions against God.
In Leviticus it says slaves should come from the nations around them, not just the Canaanite's.
Aug 17, 2019
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#467
Two bads don’t make a good, also, israelites themselves could become slaves.
Aug 17, 2019
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#468
I can't believe we're discussing whether or not slavery is moral in some circumstances.
K first of all biblical slaves were paid and set free every seven years. They also were not GENERALLY mistreated. They were basically servants and butlers so there is a big difference
dbeleiu wrote:
K first of all biblical slaves were paid and set free every seven years. They also were not GENERALLY mistreated. They were basically servants and butlers so there is a big difference
that is only true for MALE, HEBREW slaves.
Aug 17, 2019
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#472
dbeleiu wrote:
K first of all biblical slaves were paid and set free every seven years. They also were not GENERALLY mistreated. They were basically servants and butlers so there is a big difference
Show me where it says they are paid, and also where it says anyone besides male Hebrew slaves are to be set free after seven years.
Would you be OK with being my slave under the rules of Exodus 21?
TheBestBeer_Root wrote:
@ gingerninja2003
Had you read post 575 you’d see I was showing how two accounts in the Scriptures was due the conflicting deceiver, satan, the false foundation we in Isaiah 2:22 orig. only KJV have been told to cease such claims, and one of the two is Abram, name changed to Abraham.
Both accounts satan was deceiving, claiming he to be God.
I just recently posted this to a friend on here.
.....yes.. and I do have Hope for all still, and that none should perish, and no wrath, that, so very far from what Jesus expressed while nailed to the beam asking his Father to forgive them, they knowing not what they do, based the ignorance they have only known that began because one idiotic rebellion that cause all hell IN the first place!!!
All things ARE possible to God and He knows what He has planned for His children that all live and move and have their being THROUGH, being God IS Life, and not a THING TO DO with evil, nor, death, nor ignorance, nor `conflict in the Holy Scriptures`, nor confusion, such as changing languages to cause such, as well separation, nor temptation, as God NEVER TOLD Abram to make his son a sacrifice, to then know that Abram fears Him, as if God wouldn't already know such with one day being as a thousand years to Him, clearly showing that deceiver, the same one that wrestled Jacob and deceived him to think he saw the angel of God when obviously such actions are nothing to do with Him, His Unconditional Love of the SPIRIT He IS, and ONLY C R E A T E D T H E V E R Y F I R S T C H A P T E R O F His Holy Book . Everything VERY G O O D !
....the same stars of Revelation 6:13 could've very well dispersed abroad throughout the four corners of Earth and then manipulated altered language. Thus, the deceiver that wanted to be his own god, and the only reason conflict is even a word!
I will ONLY study from the orig. KJV, and what I’m describing of Abram, the altercation of language, etc. is showing where satan caused such confliction and where things need to be understood, as God clearly declares of Himself no Author of confusion, absolute clarification He never caused mankind’s language to be confused, changed which would clearly cause confusion, as well animosity from such captivity that only obviously was satan’s deviant demise and malicious intent to cause every bit of the confliction in the Holy Scriptures as I already stated, that as well being the pathetic barbaric laws priests created were a woman to help her other in a fight, cutting her hand barbarically off, nothing to do with God whatsoever, just as with Abram and altercation of civilization language.
Jeremiah 31:34 orig. only KJV
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Habakkuk 2:14
14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of The Glory Of The Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
Luke 7:41-43
41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
Aug 17, 2019
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#474
@TheBestBeer_Root, individuals and church congregations often pray for sick people to get better, for cancer to go into remission, and stuff like that.
Do you believe those prayers are sometimes answered?
The more anyone is living closer to as Jesus did, certainly, and based by their understanding is how it's manifested.
Jesus asked his followers to do just that. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons and raise the dead. And the more one is being therefore perfect as their Father which is in Heaven is the more and more they manifest such good results.
Anyone can heal as Jesus. He declared just this. Having eyes to see and ears to hear.
Ginarook wrote:
Oh, what about the placebo effect then ?
I just love the way it can be interpreted in any way you choose..don't you
This is just getting silly.
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
@TheBestBeer_Root, individuals and church congregations often pray for sick people to get better, for cancer to go into remission, and stuff like that.
Do you believe those prayers are sometimes answered?
Yes.
Aug 17, 2019
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#478
HolographWars wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
@TheBestBeer_Root, individuals and church congregations often pray for sick people to get better, for cancer to go into remission, and stuff like that.
Do you believe those prayers are sometimes answered?
Yes.
Yep
Definitely
Ginarook wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Oh, what about the placebo effect then ?
I just love the way it can be interpreted in any way you choose..don't you
This is just getting silly.
What is silly is that if I pray to me teddy bear 100 times for something, some of the time what I ask for will be granted
But I don't then assume my teddy is a god
God is not a genie...
Where does it say he is a genie in the bible? Verse please.
Verses please.