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eryxc · 2019-08-11T12:29:07-07:00

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Prometheus_Fuschs

Aug 18, 2019

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#801

jaredjm escribió:

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

jaredjm escribió:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

Oh, so God's hands are tied, he can't help but send us to hell? I thought God could do anything, but I guess even he has to follow the rules.

So who makes the rules God has to follow?

And by the way, God is the one who made us. A mechanic doesn't get mad at a car he built incorrectly, and the car doesn't deserve anything one way or another. The mechanic could fix it, or throw it away, either way saying it's justice to do ____ is silly. God made us badly, it's his problem. Or...

Or he's not all powerful, so again I'd have to ask who really makes the rules?

lol he made the rules

But you said

jaredjm wrote:

it's not like it's God wanting to send us to hell . . . He has to send us

Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.

But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"

He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.

So he can't do anything, glad we got that covered.

lol wut?

You said it yourself, he can't do logical contradictions, thus, he can't do anything since a logical contradicition is a thing.

jaredjm

Aug 18, 2019

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#802

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

jaredjm escribió:

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

jaredjm escribió:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

Oh, so God's hands are tied, he can't help but send us to hell? I thought God could do anything, but I guess even he has to follow the rules.

So who makes the rules God has to follow?

And by the way, God is the one who made us. A mechanic doesn't get mad at a car he built incorrectly, and the car doesn't deserve anything one way or another. The mechanic could fix it, or throw it away, either way saying it's justice to do ____ is silly. God made us badly, it's his problem. Or...

Or he's not all powerful, so again I'd have to ask who really makes the rules?

lol he made the rules

But you said

jaredjm wrote:

it's not like it's God wanting to send us to hell . . . He has to send us

Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.

But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"

He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.

So he can't do anything, glad we got that covered.

lol wut?

You said it yourself, he can't do logical contradictions, thus, he can't do anything since a logical contradicition is a thing.

how bout you stop giving us bunches of baloney?

jaredjm

Aug 18, 2019

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#803

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.

But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"

He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.

No no no. Your sentence didn't contain a logical contradiction. You said he couldn't tolerate sinners.

It's easy to tolerate sinners, we do it all the time.

Plus, if God is so great, why not just fix the problem? "Oh a snake had a guy eat an apple, I can't possibly fix that"

God sounds pretty lazy actually.

I'm thinking you actually know all the answers to these, as do I. Why waste our time?

Prometheus_Fuschs

Aug 18, 2019

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#804

jaredjm escribió:

how bout you stop giving us bunches of baloney?

How's that baloney? If a contradiction is not a thing nor is it to tolerate (or not) sinners then what are they?

Metar_Taf

Aug 18, 2019

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#805

Because he can’t, he is holy, how much do u know about these topics?

Metar_Taf

Aug 18, 2019

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#806

HolographWars wrote:

Wait hold on, so you are attacking the Christians, not Christianity?

I am not responsible for the Crusades, nor are white men today responsible for their ansestors holding slaves.

Prometheus_Fuschs

Aug 18, 2019

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#807

HolographWars escribió:

Because he can’t, he is holy, how much do u know about these topics?

Why is he holy?

Shore31

Aug 18, 2019

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#808

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.

But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"

He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.

No no no. Your sentence didn't contain a logical contradiction. You said he couldn't tolerate sinners.

It's easy to tolerate sinners, we do it all the time.

Plus, if God is so great, why not just fix the problem? "Oh a snake had a guy eat an apple, I can't possibly fix that"

God sounds pretty lazy actually.

You cant just throw stuff about God around, first off He’s NOT lazy. Stop dissing Him.

Prometheus_Fuschs

Aug 18, 2019

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#809

Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.

But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"

He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.

No no no. Your sentence didn't contain a logical contradiction. You said he couldn't tolerate sinners.

It's easy to tolerate sinners, we do it all the time.

Plus, if God is so great, why not just fix the problem? "Oh a snake had a guy eat an apple, I can't possibly fix that"

God sounds pretty lazy actually.

You cant just throw stuff about God around, first off He’s NOT lazy. Stop dissing Him.

Yeah, he's lazy. He got tired of creating the world even though he's supposed to be perfect.

Prometheus_Fuschs

Aug 18, 2019

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#810

There's also the question, who created God? Saying he (is he a man in the first place?) created himself implies that the Universe could have created itself.

Prometheus_Fuschs

Aug 18, 2019

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#811

Manatini escribió:

Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.

But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"

He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.

No no no. Your sentence didn't contain a logical contradiction. You said he couldn't tolerate sinners.

It's easy to tolerate sinners, we do it all the time.

Plus, if God is so great, why not just fix the problem? "Oh a snake had a guy eat an apple, I can't possibly fix that"

God sounds pretty lazy actually.

You cant just throw stuff about God around, first off He’s NOT lazy. Stop dissing Him.

God in the old testament is much worse than lazy. He's vain, vengeful, and casually cruel. He commits all sorts of atrocities including the genocide of the Canaanites and murders innocent babies in Egypt, all in a vain attempt to gain more worship and prove his power.

Ah but you see Manatini, those babies went to heaven, thus, God is great isn't he?

Metar_Taf

Aug 18, 2019

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#812

HolographWars wrote:

Wait hold on, so you are attacking the Christians, not Christianity?

I am not responsible for the Crusades, nor are white men today responsible for their ansestors holding slaves.

You guys seem to be having trouble with this one.

Metar_Taf

Aug 18, 2019

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#813

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

Manatini escribió:

Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.

But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"

He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.

No no no. Your sentence didn't contain a logical contradiction. You said he couldn't tolerate sinners.

It's easy to tolerate sinners, we do it all the time.

Plus, if God is so great, why not just fix the problem? "Oh a snake had a guy eat an apple, I can't possibly fix that"

God sounds pretty lazy actually.

You cant just throw stuff about God around, first off He’s NOT lazy. Stop dissing Him.

God in the old testament is much worse than lazy. He's vain, vengeful, and casually cruel. He commits all sorts of atrocities including the genocide of the Canaanites and murders innocent babies in Egypt, all in a vain attempt to gain more worship and prove his power.

Ah but you see Manatini, those babies went to heaven, thus, God is great isn't he?

Very true. As Heaven is 100000000+++better than Eart, they don’t have to become a sinner, as a baby is perfect.

jaredjm

Aug 18, 2019

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#814

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

There's also the question, who created God? Saying he (is he a man in the first place?) created himself implies that the Universe could have created itself.

God has no beginning, and no end. He is a perfect being.

Shore31

Aug 18, 2019

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#815

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

There's also the question, who created God? Saying he (is he a man in the first place?) created himself implies that the Universe could have created itself.

God is eternal He was, and always is!

jaredjm

Aug 18, 2019

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#816

HolographWars wrote:

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

Manatini escribió:

Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Manatini wrote:

jaredjm wrote:

Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.

But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"

He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.

No no no. Your sentence didn't contain a logical contradiction. You said he couldn't tolerate sinners.

It's easy to tolerate sinners, we do it all the time.

Plus, if God is so great, why not just fix the problem? "Oh a snake had a guy eat an apple, I can't possibly fix that"

God sounds pretty lazy actually.

You cant just throw stuff about God around, first off He’s NOT lazy. Stop dissing Him.

God in the old testament is much worse than lazy. He's vain, vengeful, and casually cruel. He commits all sorts of atrocities including the genocide of the Canaanites and murders innocent babies in Egypt, all in a vain attempt to gain more worship and prove his power.

Ah but you see Manatini, those babies went to heaven, thus, God is great isn't he?

Very true. As Heaven is 100000000+++better than Eart, they don’t have to become a sinner, as a baby is perfect.

As I've said, the Canaanites (same as everybody else) were created by God, and sinned horribly against Him. God's punishment was just.

jaredjm

Aug 18, 2019

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#817

Manatini wrote:

HolographWars wrote:

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

Ah but you see Manatini, those babies went to heaven, thus, God is great isn't he?

Very true. As Heaven is 100000000+++better than Eart, they don’t have to become a sinner, as a baby is perfect.

This is the sort of logic that lets people commit horrible acts of violence.

You could even use what you just said to argue for abortion, which I thought religious people didn't like.

(holo that is kinda a bad argument. Also babies aren't perfect.)

Prometheus_Fuschs

Aug 18, 2019

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#818

Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

There's also the question, who created God? Saying he (is he a man in the first place?) created himself implies that the Universe could have created itself.

God is eternal He was, and always is!

But we can say the same about the universe and do the same leap of faith as you do to conclude so.

jaredjm

Aug 18, 2019

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#819

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:

Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:

There's also the question, who created God? Saying he (is he a man in the first place?) created himself implies that the Universe could have created itself.

God is eternal He was, and always is!

But we can say the same about the universe and do the same leap of faith as you do to conclude so.

? The universe is obviously decaying, therefore it's not perfect, and can't be eternal.

Prometheus_Fuschs

Aug 18, 2019

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#820

HolographWars escribió:

HolographWars wrote:

Wait hold on, so you are attacking the Christians, not Christianity?

I am not responsible for the Crusades, nor are white men today responsible for their ansestors holding slaves.

You guys seem to be having trouble with this one.

I already adressed several issues witht the bible and other christian arguments.