anyway I gotta get off for the night.
Controversial Topic (Creation vs Evolution 2?)
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Aug 18, 2019
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#823
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
There's also the question, who created God? Saying he (is he a man in the first place?) created himself implies that the Universe could have created itself.
God is eternal He was, and always is!
But we can say the same about the universe and do the same leap of faith as you do to conclude so.
God created the universe 
its not eternal.
Aug 18, 2019
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#824
jaredjm escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
There's also the question, who created God? Saying he (is he a man in the first place?) created himself implies that the Universe could have created itself.
God is eternal He was, and always is!
But we can say the same about the universe and do the same leap of faith as you do to conclude so.
? The universe is obviously decaying, therefore it's not perfect, and can't be eternal.
Firstly, even if it was decaying that doesn't mean it'll dissapear.
Second, why would God do such a loose job when making the Universe?
Third, even assuming you are right, how'd that impact what I had said?
Bye-bye Jared
Aug 18, 2019
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#826
HolographWars escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Manatini escribió:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Manatini wrote:
jaredjm wrote:
Manatini wrote:
jaredjm wrote:
Right, because He made the rules. He can't tolerate sin against Him.
But God can do anything. You started a sentence with "He can't"
He can't do, like, logical contradictions; for example, the 'can God make a rock too big for him to life' question is meaningless nonsense.
No no no. Your sentence didn't contain a logical contradiction. You said he couldn't tolerate sinners.
It's easy to tolerate sinners, we do it all the time.
Plus, if God is so great, why not just fix the problem? "Oh a snake had a guy eat an apple, I can't possibly fix that"
God sounds pretty lazy actually.
You cant just throw stuff about God around, first off He’s NOT lazy. Stop dissing Him.
God in the old testament is much worse than lazy. He's vain, vengeful, and casually cruel. He commits all sorts of atrocities including the genocide of the Canaanites and murders innocent babies in Egypt, all in a vain attempt to gain more worship and prove his power.
Ah but you see Manatini, those babies went to heaven, thus, God is great isn't he?
Very true. As Heaven is 100000000+++better than Eart, they don’t have to become a sinner, as a baby is perfect.
But wait, weren't the babies killed as a punishment? That'd imply they went to hell, after all, they were still sinners and didn't accept God because they lacked the mental faculties to do so.
Aug 18, 2019
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#827
jaredjm escribió:
@Prometheus_Fuschs most of your 'issues' are shallow lame arguments that show you have no real understanding of Christianity. @Manatini at least understands most of it (although not the key parts, unless he chooses to misunderstand)
So no answer then? Great, we now know God is useless.
Aug 18, 2019
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#828
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
There's also the question, who created God? Saying he (is he a man in the first place?) created himself implies that the Universe could have created itself.
God is eternal He was, and always is!
But we can say the same about the universe and do the same leap of faith as you do to conclude so.
God created the universe its not eternal.
Based on what?
Aug 18, 2019
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#829
God created it. It didnt exist until He created it. It will pass on, and the new world shall come.
Aug 18, 2019
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#830
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
God created it. It didnt exist until He created it. It will pass on, and the new world shall come.
That doesn't answer the question.
Aug 18, 2019
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#832
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Then rephrase it.
Why isn't the universe eternal?
Aug 18, 2019
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#833
This:
God created it. It didnt exist until He created it. It will pass on, and the new world shall come.
Aug 18, 2019
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#834
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
This:
God created it. It didnt exist until He created it. It will pass on, and the new world shall come.
You are only saying God created it, that has nothing to do with the duration of the universe.
Aug 18, 2019
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#836
If nobody is hurt by believing in Santa Claus then there's no issue, otherwise...
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
HolographWars escribió:
HolographWars wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
Wait hold on, so you are attacking the Christians, not Christianity?
I am not responsible for the Crusades, nor are white men today responsible for their ansestors holding slaves.
You guys seem to be having trouble with this one.
I already adressed several issues witht the bible and other christian arguments.
Nope.
Manatini wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Faith. I have faith. I know all of this is true...why? Faith.
Exactly.
In other words what you believe can't be defended with evidence or logic, you simply choose to believe.
I’m tired of arguing against leftists, there is much logic if you just search a tiny bit. You will find much.
@Prometheus_Fuschs most of your 'issues' are shallow lame arguments that show you have no real understanding of Christianity. @Manatini at least understands most of it (although not the key parts, unless he chooses to misunderstand)