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Perefalcon07

In the un does each state have representation? They do not so they are not countries of their own right. It doesn't have to be the US. Insert Canada, China, or Russia into #2559 and it comes with the same result

DiogenesDue
Perefalcon07 wrote:

In the un does each state have representation? They do not so they are not countries of their own right. It doesn't have to be the US. Insert Canada, China, or Russia into #2559 and it comes with the same result

Have you got a purpose in mind for posting here other than to be nitpicking?  If so, feel free to post something.

4kingknight
Perefalcon07 wrote:

In the un does each state have representation? They do not so they are not countries of their own right. It doesn't have to be the US. Insert Canada, China, or Russia into #2559 and it comes with the same result

UN representation is not the standard. It is not a standard. States in the U.S. are as different as European countries. California is larger than many countries, and has an economy on par with some of the largest countries in the world. The majority of people in the U.S. do not agree in any way with how California runs their government. The majority of news propagated around the world is the liberal news media’s slant. Please just remember that when trying to lump the U.S. into one political entity. 

IcyAvaleigh
#2549, is this 99,5% number based on all time data or just after they started to give people vaccines in the usa?

if it's all time data, I think the number says nothing. if it's recent data only, I think we can say the vaccines are effective. (what % of the people in the usa are fully protected by vaccine nowadays?)
Marie-AnneLiz

Marie-AnneLiz
IcyAvaleigh a écrit :
#2549, is this 99,5% number based on all time data or just after they started to give people vaccines in the usa?

if it's all time data, I think the number says nothing. if it's recent data only, I think we can say the vaccines are effective. (what % of the people in the usa are fully protected by vaccine nowadays?)

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state

RonaldJosephCote

https://www.yahoo.com/news/another-coronavirus-variant-reached-florida-192854583.html   

Marie-AnneLiz
IcyAvaleigh a écrit :
#2549, is this 99,5% number based on all time data or just after they started to give people vaccines in the usa?

if it's all time data, I think the number says nothing. if it's recent data only, I think we can say the vaccines are effective. (what % of the people in the usa are fully protected by vaccine nowadays?)

RonaldJosephCote

   Google, Facebook, Netflix, and dozens of other firms are requiring vaccine shots for their employees. If you don't want to get a shot for whatever reason then go find employment elsewhere........https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/business/companies-vaccine-mandate/index.html   

Marie-AnneLiz
IcyAvaleigh a écrit :
#2549, is this 99,5% number based on all time data or just after they started to give people vaccines in the usa?

if it's all time data, I think the number says nothing. if it's recent data only, I think we can say the vaccines are effective. (what % of the people in the usa are fully protected by vaccine nowadays?)

Marie-AnneLiz
IcyAvaleigh a écrit :
#2549, is this 99,5% number based on all time data or just after they started to give people vaccines in the usa?

if it's all time data, I think the number says nothing. if it's recent data only, I think we can say the vaccines are effective. (what % of the people in the usa are fully protected by vaccine nowadays?)

Almost 50% are vaccinated two times and 1 in 4 got the covid 19 already so they are protected in part so 25% are at high risk for the Delta and that is a lot of peoples....a bit less then 100 millions.

Wolfbird
4kingknight wrote:
Perefalcon07 wrote:

In the un does each state have representation? They do not so they are not countries of their own right. It doesn't have to be the US. Insert Canada, China, or Russia into #2559 and it comes with the same result

UN representation is not the standard. It is not a standard. States in the U.S. are as different as European countries. California is larger than many countries, and has an economy on par with some of the largest countries in the world. The majority of people in the U.S. do not agree in any way with how California runs their government. The majority of news propagated around the world is the liberal news media’s slant. Please just remember that when trying to lump the U.S. into one political entity. 

I'd like to know how you polled the "majority of the people in the US" to come up with that conclusion. Maybe it's more like the majority of people down at the greasy spoon where you have breakfast.  

BlindThief
Marie-AnneLiz wrote:
IcyAvaleigh a écrit :
#2549, is this 99,5% number based on all time data or just after they started to give people vaccines in the usa?

if it's all time data, I think the number says nothing. if it's recent data only, I think we can say the vaccines are effective. (what % of the people in the usa are fully protected by vaccine nowadays?)

Almost 50% are vaccinated two times and 1 in 4 got the covid 19 already so they are protected in part so 25% are at high risk for the Delta and that is a lot of peoples....a bit less then 100 millions.


I think a crucial assumption that weakens this argument is that we still do not know the body’s ability to sustain Covid-antibodies long term or whether catching Covid-alpha gives any protections against, say, Covid-lambda (to date, the vaccine, and by proxy the antibodies it produces, is showing efficacy against all variants). But, if certain variants can reinfect previously infected people and if the vaccine’s antibodies only last 6-12 months (without boosters), then 25% of the population being vulnerable is wishful thinking.

Perefalcon07

My ppourpose to post is to ask why does it matter that Bhutan has vaccinated more percentage of the people than the US? 

Perefalcon07

Not trying to be a jersey just asking

Perefalcon07

*jerk

Abhinav
FunkleSweet wrote:

https://thewatchtowers.org/nobel-prize-winner-french-virologist-luc-montagnier-explains-how-covid-19-vaccines-are-creating-variants/?amp=1

Nobel Prize winning virologist Luc Montagnier asserts that: “it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”.

Is there anyone in here who has more knowledge and/or credentials than a Nobel Prize winning virologist?

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/luc-montagniers-views-on-covid-vaccines-are-latest-of-his-wrong-vexing-ideas/

An excerpt from the article above~

 

What did Luc Montagnier really say?

The origin of this news is traced to an article on the website of a right-wing group called the RAIR Foundation USA, which claims that the comments were made as part of a more extensive interview with ‘Hold-Up Media’ – known to promote conspiracy theories.

Since Luc Montagnier’s interview was in French, I asked two separate French speakers, Ramkumar Sambasivan at Indian Institute for Science Education and Research, Tirupati, and Aurelie Jory at the National Centre for Biological Sciences, Bengaluru, to listen to it. Both of them confirmed the following:

* He did not say vaccinated people would die in two years.

* He asserted that variants are a consequence of natural selection due to vaccinations.

* He says that ADE would lead to much stronger infection by variants in vaccinated people.

* He calls massive vaccination a ‘medical mistake’.

Due to his controversial views, Luc Montagnier has little credibility in the community of scientists, even in France. One article says that though he was awarded prizes for his early work, since then “he is lost in the desert”, and has been known to bring up disturbing theories. His colleagues have opposed him and his crazy theories about electromagnetic radiation being able to cure Lyme disease, a bacterial infection spread by tick bites. (sic)

BlindThief
FunkleSweet wrote:

https://thewatchtowers.org/nobel-prize-winner-french-virologist-luc-montagnier-explains-how-covid-19-vaccines-are-creating-variants/?amp=1

Nobel Prize winning virologist Luc Montagnier asserts that: “it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”.

Is there anyone in here who has more knowledge and/or credentials than a Nobel Prize winning virologist?


one, just no. If this were a natural selection thing, we’d more than likely see a breakthrough strain rather than isolated cases. What is more, variants pop up after mass outbreaks, indicating natural mutation among unvaccinated transmitters.

 

two, we had a host of variants that predate the vaccine. 

 

three, appeal to authority fallacy

DiogenesDue

Blocking the UnclePeet sockpuppet (Funklesweet)...

BlindThief
FunkleSweet wrote:

BlindThief… I know you obviously know more than a Nobel prize winning virologist.


And don’t you ever forget that.

 

 

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