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Marie-AnneLiz

Two people with the coronavirus died in California as much as three weeks before the U.S. reported its first death from the disease in late February

Dr. Sara Cody, health director in Northern California’s Santa Clara County, said the deaths were missed because of a scarcity of testing and the federal government’s limited guidance on who should be tested.

The infections in the two patients were confirmed by way of autopsy tissue samples that were sent to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for analysis. The county coroner’s office received the results on Tuesday, officials said.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6856758/coronavirus-california-early-deaths/

In the wake of the disclosure, Gov. Gavin Newsom said he has directed coroners throughout the state to take another look at deaths as far back as December to help establish more clearly when the epidemic took hold in California.

Officials said the two Santa Clara County patients died at home — a 57-year-old woman on Feb. 6 and a 69-year-old man on Feb. 17 — and that neither had traveled out of the country to a coronavirus outbreak area.

“Where did this come from if it wasn’t her traveling?” Macias said. “Patricia may not be the first. It’s just the earliest we have found so far.”

Marie-AnneLiz

The two newly reported deaths show that the virus was spreading in California well before officials realized it and that outbreaks were underway in at least two parts of the country at about the same time.

Thousands of travelers from China and other affected regions entered the U.S. before travel bans and airport screenings were put in place by the Trump administration in mid- and late January. Lack of widespread testing meant the country was flying blind to the true number of infections.

“It now appears most likely that there were multiple seeding events that introduced the virus to the United States,”

“It shifts everything weeks earlier, extends geographic involvement, (and) further shows how our inability to test let this outbreak loose,” said Dr. Eric Topol, head of the Scripps Research Translational Institute in San Diego.

What the newly reported deaths show “is that we had community transmission probably to a significant degree far earlier than we had known,” Cody said. “And that indicates that the virus was probably introduced and circulating in our community, again, far earlier than we had known.”

Marie-AnneLiz

A test for the coronavirus was not available in the early weeks of the crisis. It was not until Jan. 11 that the world had the genetic makeup of the virus, which is necessary to design a test for it.

sameez1

how did they find the mutation so quickly?Did they just happen to look for a mutation  before this extremely contagious virus spread around the world?

DiogenesDue
sameez1 wrote:

how did they find the mutation so quickly?Did they just happen to look for a mutation  before this extremely contagious virus spread around the world?

Any virus strain that causes human lungs to fill with fluid until they die of respiratory distress is going to be discovered within weeks.

Geodexic

May be we can contain some ultraviolet lights in a capsule that could radiate when the capsule  container is dissolve in our digestion. The light intensity could be raised in a single capsule.

The effect of light radiate in the digestion might be different with if we consume light straightly from the sun light. The capsule might kill the virus.

DiogenesDue
Geodexic wrote:

May be we can contain some ultraviolet lights in a capsule that could radiate when the capsule  container is dissolve in our digestion. The light intensity could be raised in a single capsule.

The effect of light radiate in the digestion might be different with if we consume light straightly from the sun light. The capsule might kill the virus.

Are you being saracastic, as Trump now claims he was being?

Geodexic
btickler wrote:
Geodexic wrote:

May be we can contain some ultraviolet lights in a capsule that could radiate when the capsule  container is dissolve in our digestion. The light intensity could be raised in a single capsule.

The effect of light radiate in the digestion might be different with if we consume light straightly from the sun light. The capsule might kill the virus.

Are you being saracastic, as Trump now claims he was being?

No. I am serious. We can discuss about it.

DiogenesDue
Geodexic wrote:

No. I am serious. We can discuss about it.

So, your plan is to put UV light into an ingestible capsule...let's just start there, shall we?

How do you plan to achieve this first step?

DiogenesDue

We all knew this would be coming next...

https://news.yahoo.com/fringe-movement-claims-bleach-miracle-115930023.html

Geodexic
btickler wrote:
Geodexic wrote:

No. I am serious. We can discuss about it.

So, your plan is to put UV light into an ingestible capsule...let's just start there, shall we?

How do you plan to achieve this first step?

UV light is having a role as a catalyst in photosynthesis process and ended up not to be changed. Thus the UV eventually could reach the virus.

It is better if we could observe in the surface that the factors which is killing the virus. Whether the heat or the frequency that kill the virus.

PetraGompa

Very interesting article (in french) and pertinent need mb a translation to understand to "do not get the covid19 is not a goal of existence....."

https://www.franceinter.fr/idees/le-coup-de-gueule-du-philosophe-andre-comte-sponville-sur-l-apres-confinement

english tranlattion by google

congrandolor
PetraGompa wrote:

Very interesting article (in french) and pertinent need mb a translation to understand to "do not get the covid19 is not a goal of existence....."

https://www.franceinter.fr/idees/le-coup-de-gueule-du-philosophe-andre-comte-sponville-sur-l-apres-confinement

english tranlattion by google

isn´t it?

congrandolor

Seems that cats can get the virus. frustrated.png

sameez1
Geodexic wrote:
btickler wrote:
Geodexic wrote:

May be we can contain some ultraviolet lights in a capsule that could radiate when the capsule  container is dissolve in our digestion. The light intensity could be raised in a single capsule.

The effect of light radiate in the digestion might be different with if we consume light straightly from the sun light. The capsule might kill the virus.

Are you being saracastic, as Trump now claims he was being?

No. I am serious. We can discuss about it.

LOL

RonaldJosephCote

You may be serious with your disolving capsule but Trump instructed Secret Service to desparately find someone named "Uncle Fester" for the next WH briefing..frustrated.png                               

sameez1
btickler wrote:
sameez1 wrote:

how did they find the mutation so quickly?Did they just happen to look for a mutation  before this extremely contagious virus spread around the world?

Any virus strain that causes human lungs to fill with fluid until they die of respiratory distress is going to be discovered within weeks.

How many weeks?

The first case of someone suffering from Covid-19 can be traced back to 17 November, according to media reports on unpublished Chinese government data.

The report, in the South China Morning Post, said Chinese authorities had identified at least 266 people who contracted the virus last year and who came under medical surveillance, and the earliest case was 17 November – weeks before authorities announced the emergence of the new virus.

How many weeks four. five. Given the extreme contagiousness,the long period of being asymptomatic,and the amount of time it would be in the field before being discovered,has me  thinking that this virus has infected many more people at an earlier date than November last year....

 

 

 

Marie-AnneLiz
Geodexic a écrit :
btickler wrote:
Geodexic wrote:

May be we can contain some ultraviolet lights in a capsule that could radiate when the capsule  container is dissolve in our digestion. The light intensity could be raised in a single capsule.

The effect of light radiate in the digestion might be different with if we consume light straightly from the sun light. The capsule might kill the virus.

Are you being saracastic, as Trump now claims he was being?

No. I am serious. We can discuss about it.

It's a good idea if you prefer to die from cancer on top of the covid-19?

Why not get 2 illness to get you a better chance to die!

Marie-AnneLiz
Geodexic a écrit :
btickler wrote:
Geodexic wrote:

No. I am serious. We can discuss about it.

So, your plan is to put UV light into an ingestible capsule...let's just start there, shall we?

How do you plan to achieve this first step?

UV light is having a role as a catalyst in photosynthesis process and ended up not to be changed. Thus the UV eventually could reach the virus.

It is better if we could observe in the surface that the factors which is killing the virus. Whether the heat or the frequency that kill the virus.

Ultraviolet (UVlight induces specific mutations in the cellular and skin genome such as UV-signature and triplet mutations, the mechanism of which has been thought to involve translesion DNA synthesis (TLS) over UV-induced DNA base damage.

Marie-AnneLiz
congrandolor a écrit :

Seems that cats can get the virus.

And dogs if you sneeze on them or if you inject them the virus( but they don't die from it) they just get a bit tired

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