Covid-19 Discussion (moderated) - Chess Forums - Page 34

Marie-AnneLiz

Apr 25, 2020

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#661

wsswan a écrit :

llama44 I did my best to really make the process as simple as I could from a cell biology course and a biochemistry course I took in 1972 some things have changed of course in our understanding of viruses since then. The video Marie-AnneLiz referred to is actually very similar to what I learned then about viruses in general and I really recommend the video for those wanting more accuracy in their understanding of this specific virus. It was a very good video. Thank you both for your inputs.

Yes that guy is qualified and he is really good at making it fun to watch.

Zach attended Misericordia University where he received his Bachelors of Science degree in Biology and a minor in chemistry.

https://lifeboat.com/blog/2020/03/covid-19-corona-virus-epidemiology-pathophysiology-diagnostics

DiogenesDue

Apr 25, 2020

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#662

wsswan wrote:

The virus doesn't enter the cell at first think of it as a corn dog. The stick part merely attaches to the cell wall. The coating on the corn dog would be the protein shell protecting the DNA of the virus which equates to to the weenie inside the protein shell, The virus then causes the cells endoplasmic reticulum to synthesize new viruses inside the cell until enough are replicated to over fill the cell and the cell wall ruptures releasing newly synthesized viruses to attack other cells.

Granted, but for a cure to work it has to kill the virus no matter how far it has permeated the cell...so it's easier to to just say it has to kill the virus inside the host cells. The explanation I typed was long enough already ...

DiogenesDue

Apr 25, 2020

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#663

llama44 wrote:

In other words people are never stupid in actuality, because being stupid is a matter of opinion.

I did not say that. There's a difference between stupidity existing and that instance of stupidity being called out. There's also a difference between watching what you say on a chess site that is only allowing some temporary leeway on their "no politics, no religion" policy, and being fully censored.

If you say that a politician's actions/statements during the outbreak are stupid, you are probably going to get by with that a little more readily than normal. If you say a politician (or a news source, or a group of politically affiliated protesters, etc.) is stupid, end stop, with context removed, it's going to eventually get the thread shut down.

You already know this, because you were one of the handful of posters dominating the last several pages of the original coronavirus thread that got locked . So, if my intent was to censor you, I'd have done it already and made my thread "safer" in advance.

My intent is to make it clearer where the lines are so that people can speak more, not less...and the fact that David is coming by and having to do extra cleanup just confirms how much of a tightrope this thread is walking, and how much I am pushing the envelope in the direction of allowing people to respond authentically, without blocking. I have been pretty quick to pull that trigger for posters with a high noise to signal ratio, so...I'm just asking people to do their part in keeping the noise ratio low, and it stands to reason that if I haven't blocked someone, it's because they are contributing something.

sameez1

Apr 25, 2020

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#664

btickler wrote:

sameez1 wrote:

How many weeks?

The first case of someone suffering from Covid-19 can be traced back to 17 November, according to media reports on unpublished Chinese government data.

The report, in the South China Morning Post, said Chinese authorities had identified at least 266 people who contracted the virus last year and who came under medical surveillance, and the earliest case was 17 November – weeks before authorities announced the emergence of the new virus.

How many weeks four. five. Given the extreme contagiousness,the long period of being asymptomatic,and the amount of time it would be in the field before being discovered,has me thinking that this virus has infected many more people at an earlier date than November last year....

In this case, I mean up to 8 weeks...i.e. an amount of weeks that is less than multiple months, or I would have said months .

I am still waiting for something more definitive on the patient zero search in general...as I have mentioned it is hard and sometimes impossible to ascertain. South China Morning Post was owned by Rupert Murdoch (ala Fox News), then sold to Alibaba. Given that and the fact that they will only say they have seen data but not anything about the data...I will keep waiting.

You keep on waiting

RonaldJosephCote

Apr 25, 2020

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#665

"...and the fact that David is coming by and having to do extra cleanup just confirms how much of a tightrope this thread is walking". At least he's cleaning your thread....with me he just keeps sending me this picture every day.

llama44

Apr 25, 2020

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#666

btickler wrote:

llama44 wrote:

In other words people are never stupid in actuality, because being stupid is a matter of opinion.

I did not say that. There's a difference between stupidity existing and that instance of stupidity being called out.

Ok, just help me understand.

You say there's a difference between [world leader] did [something factual]
and
[world leader] did [opinion]

Which category would "Trump did something stupid again" fall under?

btickler wrote:

There's also a difference between watching what you say on a chess site that is only allowing some temporary leeway on their "no politics, no religion" policy, and being fully censored.

Unfortunately there's also a difference in standards for an anonymous user on a small chess forum and the president of the United States. The standards I'm held to are quite a bit higher.

btickler wrote:

My intent is to make it clearer where the lines are so that people can speak more, not less...and the fact that David is coming by and having to do extra cleanup just confirms how much of a tightrope this thread is walking, and how much I am pushing the envelope in the direction of allowing people to respond authentically, without blocking.

Sure, I can appreciate your situation. I'm just not very happy about some things that are going on in the world today.

btickler wrote:

You already know this, because you were one of the handful of posters dominating the last several pages of the original coronavirus thread that got locked .

Thanks so much for noticing. I plan on continuing to say what I want, when I want... not that I was ever trying to get your topic locked.

sndeww

Apr 25, 2020

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#667

llama44 wrote:

btickler wrote:

llama44 wrote:

In other words people are never stupid in actuality, because being stupid is a matter of opinion.

I did not say that. There's a difference between stupidity existing and that instance of stupidity being called out.

Ok, just help me understand.

You say there's a difference between [world leader] did [something factual]
and
[world leader] did [opinion]

Which category would "Trump did something stupid again" fall under?

Slightly edgy

wsswan

Apr 25, 2020

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#668

To make a virus inactive the host body develops antibodies to deactivate the spike protein. Once it is deactivated the leukocytes gobble them up and are carried away to various places in the body of the host for elimination.

llama44

Apr 25, 2020

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#669

SNUDOO wrote:

Slightly edgy

Says the anime dragon avatar in a BDSM mask.

sndeww

Apr 25, 2020

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#670

llama44 wrote:

SNUDOO wrote:

Slightly edgy

Says the anime dragon avatar in a BDSM mask.

what is BSDM? and no, the dragon is hand-drawn (but not by me)

Also the "slightly edgy" was from btickler's post...

llama44

Apr 25, 2020

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#671

wsswan wrote:

To make a virus inactive the host body develops antibodies to deactivate the spike protein. Once it is deactivated the leukocytes gobble them up and are carried away to various places in the body of the host for elimination.

The leukocytes are like packets of ketchup. Ketchup is fairly sweet, and makes the corndogs appetizing to small children.

Once the small children ingest the corndogs, they're broken down by a system of powerful organs and then excreted out the rectum in 8 to 12 hours.

llama44

Apr 25, 2020

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#672

SNUDOO wrote:

llama44 wrote:

SNUDOO wrote:

Slightly edgy

Says the anime dragon avatar in a BDSM mask.

what is BSDM? and no, the dragon is hand-drawn (but not by me)

Also the "slightly edgy" was from btickler's post...

I could have a lot of fun by responding to this silly post, but I'd probably get muted.

I guess I'll stick with...

SNUDOO wrote:

it's not anime, it's hand-drawn

Galaxy brain argument.

wsswan

Apr 25, 2020

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#673

llama44 you are very good at simplifying my posts!

RonaldJosephCote

Apr 25, 2020

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#674

I was thinking the same thing........I'd probably get muted.

sndeww

Apr 25, 2020

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#675

llama44 wrote:

SNUDOO wrote:

llama44 wrote:

SNUDOO wrote:

Slightly edgy

Says the anime dragon avatar in a BDSM mask.

what is BSDM? and no, the dragon is hand-drawn (but not by me)

Also the "slightly edgy" was from btickler's post...

I could have a lot of fun by responding to this silly post, but I'd probably get muted.

ok then ill just google BDSM

edit: I regret

llama44

Apr 25, 2020

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#676

wsswan wrote:

llama44 you are very good at simplifying my posts!

Hehe

Wolfbird

Apr 25, 2020

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#677

llama44 wrote:

wsswan wrote:

To make a virus inactive the host body develops antibodies to deactivate the spike protein. Once it is deactivated the leukocytes gobble them up and are carried away to various places in the body of the host for elimination.

The leukocytes are like packets of ketchup. Ketchup is fairly sweet, and makes the corndogs appetizing to small children.

Once the small children ingest the corndogs, they're broken down by a system of powerful organs and then excreted out the rectum in 8 to 12 hours.

It mutates with mustard.

wsswan

Apr 25, 2020

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#678

LOL

DiogenesDue

Apr 25, 2020

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#679

llama44 wrote:

Unfortunately there's also a difference in standards for an anonymous user on a small chess forum and the president of the United States. The standards I'm held to are quite a bit higher.

[and]

Thanks so much for noticing. I plan on continuing to say what I want, when I want... not that I was ever trying to get your topic locked.

As I said, if Trump shows up here I will hold him to the same standard . I can't do much about the standards elsewhere.

Go ahead and say what you want, when you want, just be aware it could lead to you expressing yourself elsewhere. It's a trade-off. I'm not going to hold a grudge or anything if that happens.

llama44

Apr 25, 2020

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#680

btickler wrote:

As I said, if Trump shows up here I will hold him to the same standard

Haha, great response

btickler wrote:

I'm not going to hold a grudge or anything if that happens.

Me either man. You've been clear about rules, I'm not going to be mad at you.

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By the way, can you believe the red banner prevented me from saying a-n-u-s when that's a technical term? I had to switch it to rectum. I don't know why one is more offensive than the other.