Covid-19 Discussion (moderated)

Clearly not, unless you just don't care at all about 230K+ people being dead.  Perhaps the notion that infected people infect other people in turn has escaped you.

If you are at risk then YOU quarantine.  YOU take measures to protect yourself.

Dont shut down the entire economy because a tiny % of the population POSSIBLY could die from this.

Chuck Grassley, old as dirt, has it and he’s fine.

America is an unhealthy country.  Obesity, drug use, diabetes and god knows what else.

If certain people were allergic to the sun we wouldn’t blanket the atmosphere to block it out for those people.  Those people that were at risk would be expected to take precautions.

Ive been working since day 1 in New York surrounded by it.  I saw 10,000 gather shoulder to shoulder to protest one form of idiocy after another and nobody said a word....so obviously people aren’t too concerned.

“Research suggesting” means nothing 

Not really no.

Using confirmed cases and deaths to come up with a mortality rate is not the same as predicting that, in the future, things MIGHT happen based on certain things happening now.

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The infection rate of a virus with a 99.8% survivability for anyone under 50 is meaningless 

Clearly not, unless you just don't care at all about 230K+ people being dead.  Perhaps the notion that infected people infect other people in turn has escaped you.

If you are at risk then YOU quarantine.  YOU take measures to protect yourself.

Dont shut down the entire economy because a tiny % of the population POSSIBLY could die from this.

Chuck Grassley, old as dirt, has it and he’s fine.

America is an unhealthy country.  Obesity, drug use, diabetes and god knows what else.

If certain people were allergic to the sun we wouldn’t blanket the atmosphere to block it out for those people.  Those people that were at risk would be expected to take precautions.

Ive been working since day 1 in New York surrounded by it.  I saw 10,000 gather shoulder to shoulder to protest one form of idiocy after another and nobody said a word....so obviously people aren’t too concerned.

Mandating mask wearing is not shutting down the economy.

Testing for anyone who needs it is not shutting down the economy.

Pretending COVID is a hoax and suggesting non-cures is not leadership.

Maybe that’s why masks weren’t originally mandated 

The same reason why the president was called a xenophobe for wanting to close the border during a pandemic.

Certain people weren’t thinking clearly.

No-one's arguing for shutting down the ENTIRE economy: it's targeted lockdowns in hotspots. Unfortunately, if you let your entire country become a hotspot, then yeah, I guess shutting down your entire country might become necessary.

A "tiny %" is not "POSSIBLY" going to die: a % WILL die. Whether that % is "tiny" or not is one of the discussion points, but clearly you don't think it's worth trying to protect them: that's the same lack of empathy and concern for others that's come from the current leadership, and why it's gotten as bad as it has.

You said infection rate is meaningless.  That is *obviously* incorrect.  Everything else you posted is what-about-ism and strawmanning.  Nobody posited anything you were just railing against.

That being said, I am sure that during the bubonic plague, as the carts were wheeling away the piles of the dead, there were people just like you saying "not my problem, business as usual".

Just requoting what I posted an hour or so ago before this conversation got US-centric. The economy is knackered here in UK. It will take years to recover. 

Nobody is going to follow a mask mandate get real.  You can’t even stop these people from gathering in the thousands to rob the local liquor store or burn down the Walgreens....

Keep schools open, keep businesses open, quarantine the vulnerable 

Money is an abstraction.  A construct.  If the world ceased to accept money tomorrow, people would still have to go on, and they would.  If the whole world suffers an economic downturn, then in relative terms, it's not as bad as you are making out.  Thus the DOW breaking 30,000.  Relative.

Fill up your hospital capacity and increase the mortality rate because of that - yeah!

Oh my GOODNESS! Someone SHUT DOWN CITY HALL!  LETS ALL RUN AND HIDE!

I mean certainly that’s worse than the BILLIONS in damage from spoiled rotten leftists running AMOK right?

I mean one group STOOD AROUND and SCARED people who are so weak it makes my stomach turn.

The other groups murdered police, burned buildings and assaulted citizens and will now cost the taxpayer BILLIONS in the damages they caused.

Yeah that sure sounds equal.

Those are not the people that will not follow a mask mandate.  As you well know.  It's the Braveheart "you'll never take my freedom" schmucks that will ignore it.  Even moreso now that they "lost" and need to save face in their eyes.

Well the head of the CDC says that schools are the safest place for kids to be and doctor Fauci also wants schools open.

Listen to the experts right?

And you know they will not follow the mask mandate HOW?  Is this more of your rock solid data?  Are you a psychic?

Surely someone who burns and loots the local drug store because the cops shot some random violent drug addict is a clear thinking person...certainly the type to follow rules and such....

Keep it outbreak-related.  So far, so good, but if you stray off into the weeds on the "evil of leftists", then that'll be the end of this particular set of exchanges.

It's what we did here in Australia - kept the schools open as long as possible and only moving to virtual learning when really strict lockdowns were required. Essential businesses stayed open, like grocery stores, but most had a scale of restrictions such as take away only for restaurants, closing of gyms and pubs, that sort thing. Sorry, you can't protect your economy without protecting the people who are dying from this.

And listening to the experts is exactly what this administration is NOT doing.

The Kyle kid is out thanks to ME...I donated to him.

He killed a child molester and a couple of other criminals who ran up on him and tried to use violence...the lefts forte.

Standing while holding a gun, in a place where it is legal to open carry, shouldn’t even make you blink.  You don’t like it change the law.  It’s pretty simple.

God bless Kyle Rittenhouse.