Covid19 and chess around the World!

That is a good idea if they admit they are taking the vaccine and we know how much dishonesty is involved with our representatives....The new vaccine could have side effects years later....I am old so I might take it considering years later I would die from something else that is not related to the vaccine...On the other hand I have been using marijuana for decades since the 1960's hippie era with no viruses such as the common cold during those years...

The drug manufacturing companies do make a big announcements but in fine print the side effects are mentioned! after all for them it is business 

never though junkies would be interested in playing chess

Yeah, read up more on the vaccine, and this is the first one that is based on messenger RNA (mRNA). Plus there is a rumor?...that Bill Gates funds Moderna and that Moderna never developed a vaccine at all before? They are named after mRNA, and only formed in 2010. I saw something on Facebook by a Molecular Biologist, that seems to have been quickly removed, don't see it anymore. He was warning that mRNA has the potential to permanently alter human DNA. If that is true, for what purpose? Maybe make us more passive? dumb us down? Who knows?

Please just stop with the stupid Bill Gates theories.  If he wanted to alter human DNA, he could do it...without any vaccine.  *So could you*.  It's called CRISPR, and there's no laws about it yet, you can buy it on the Internet.  Hobbyists are already trying to create glow in the dark dogs, etc. by mixing DNA from various species.  I'm actually surprised that conspiracy theorists have been too ignorant and behind in technology to even pick up on CRISPR, given that even Netflix has done a documentary on the dangers of it being unregulated currently.

Anyone on the planet can introduce CRISPR RNA into any water supply they can get access to and alter DNA for every living thing drinking that water.  It can be made airborne.  Worse, CRISPR can be made recursive, in the sense that CRISPR can contain itself and ergo replicate itself, and can thus spread worldwide indirectly from the initial source(s).  When it splices itself into someone's DNA, that splice it can contain another copy of CRISPR.

So, why bother creating or piggybacking on a pandemic?  Needlessly complicated and prone to discovery.  You can buy a CRISPR kit for $65 plus shipping.  It doesn't take a Bill Gates or a worldwide virus to pull that off.  You can bet threats are coming in this arena, but it will be groups of radicals with cheap CRISPR kits making it happen, not the man who wants to build a better toilet for humanity.

Conspiracy theorists really need to apply to Occam's Razor.  It kills 80% of their theories out of the gate (or Gates).

Any decent molecular biologist knows about CRISPR already and hopefully realizes that using a vaccine to deliver any gene-altering agent doesn't really make sense given how easily it could be done without going to all that trouble.

Some people do claim that Covid is a hoax or it has been blown out of proportion. Who agrees with it? 

I thought Covid is very real as it has had so many casualties 

Wear your mask and stay safe. [political comment removed - David, moderator]

That's interesting but why isn't that illegal yet as it sounds extremely dangerous and could easily get into the wrong hands. Is this CRISPR new???

Hmm, surely there is something  which stops CRISPR being a problem, or we would have already seen widespread genetic diseases. Maybe there are already some new genetic diseases. I doubt it though.

I also don't think Pfizer and Moderna would purposefully create a vaccine which is harmfull and it has passed many tests. But there could be some long term effects which nobody knows about. Personally, I don't think it is right to give the vaccine to old people first as long term affects will make them very vulnerable. On the other hand, the longer we wait, the more deaths due to Covid. It's an interesting thought, should we subject old people to possible long term effects or try to stop Covid using other ways which won't be as effective (eg. vaccines which don't involve genetics but aren't that effective).

It's not illegal yet because legislation is reactive, not proactive .  It will become illegal when somebody gives their own children gills or something...

In this case, that doesn't seem fast enough.  Because people are breeding various species with CRIPSR's modified DNA strands, and it get passed down through reproduction.  You can't really get rid of a variant once it's out there.  The biohacker in the story I just linked is trying to cure a problem with a species of dog, because he's mad that humans bred these dogs over the centuries to produce this serious problem in the first place.  Admirable?   Perhaps.  He's also trying to breed glow in the dark puppies by adding bioluminescent bacteria DNA... 

I really find it funny that people are still trying to pin a bioweaponized Covid on Wuhan Labs, but they are completely oblivious to actual dangers that are occurring around them.  There's way more of a problem with just trying to mix and match species' DNA in a shotgun approach. 

Conspiracy theorists are all the same...they want something horrific and insidious to fight against, not something real and caused by simple human ignorance and negligence.  Note how QAnon keeps pushing the crackpot theory that there's a secret cabal of powerful democrats that are doing horrific things to children, but QAnon didn't say boo before or after the expose of Jeffrey Epstein, an actual child trafficker/abuser with a large ring of powerful people as his clients .

Anyone else watch “12 Monkeys?”

So what is the decision after all these discussion. Do we wear masks or just roam around as before without any precaution. Could someone summarize it. 

The conversation has now moved on to the dangers of genetic modification and CRISPR.

I think we definitely need to wear face coverings in all areas, even outside as it is still dangerous outside and if people want to stop coronavirus then they should take it serious and not complain about how terrible our world leaders are doing. But I think we all have to agree that Boris Johnson has done a terrible job of keeping Great Britain and, selfishly has only thought about our economy which also hasn't turned out very well, either

I drove past a guy on a bike, in the middle of nowhere. He’s was riding down the side of a rural highway, wearing a mask, while texting. 

Can we discuss Darwin Award candidates?

I see that too. More common probably is people driving in their car, alone, wearing a mask. We discussed this problem early on. In our state driving to a vacation home in Bend was not allowed. That's why people wear a mask, in their car, alone.

Because somehow the virus can transmit through the glass, across a lane of travel, into the glass of a nearby car, all while traveling 60mph. The interstate is just a breeding ground for covid. 

No, I think that's probably because they are on Uber and want to stay safe from other passengers in their car

Could be. But they don't have an Uber or Lyft sticker. Plus they are alone. Maybe they just dont want to catch covid from themselves. Can never be too careful. 

By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.

Still people don't take it seriously