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najdorkmiguel

furthermore pro muay thai has more rules than ufc

ChessSensasian
najdorkmiguel wrote:
ChessSensasian wrote:

Buakaw in his 8 yrs of fighting and competing has only lost 4 fights out of 360+. 

all in all if u dont know what ur talking about then stfu

Nope. I think you should watch your acronyms. 
But it’s true anyway. Buakaw has more experience. 

ChessSensasian
najdorkmiguel wrote:
ChessSensasian wrote:
sjsharks7 wrote:

His youth doesnt count

Even then. He’s only fought 28 matches. Not that much. 

as somebody who has watched pretty much all of khabibs fights and as someone who has watched buakaw almost get koed in the first round by a dude that wouldnt make the ufc or even strikeforce to save his life i will tell you that khabib is a considerably better and more dominant fighter 

on top of khabib never losing a fight he has also never lost a round and nobody ever came close to beating him

besides the fact that the ufc has some of the best muay thai fighters in the world like anderson silva donald cerrone and others, the ufcs fighters are of considerablly higher quality than anyone buakaw has ever faced, (yes including that shaolin monk  who couldnt even make pro mma) and im sure that khabib wouldve beat the crap out of all of them and not have lost a single fight.

in case tou didnt know what mma stands for it stands for mixed martial arts which means it includes all effective martial arts including muay thai. but muay thai is not the only thing it includes as it also includes grapling clinch fighting boxing kickboxing and wrestling 

all in all mma includes muay thai and more and is obviously more effective than muay thai alone and khabib would beat the crap out of buakaw

That’s not exactly true. 
At best, Khabib is a grappler. One of the best. However, Buakaw is a two-time K-1 (

K-1 is a martial arts organisation and martial arts brand established in 1993, well-known worldwide mainly for its heavyweight division fights.)  champion.

Now if we were to have them face off, in terms of punching, kicking, and overall fighting skill, Buakaw would be the top dog. At the same time, Khabib, if he were to take Buakaw to the ground, would have the advantage.

But Buakaw is ranked top 10 in his kickboxing weight division. He’s lost only 15/300+ fights. He’s a beast that very few have beaten

 

Also, I wouldn’t say that ufc muay thau fighters are “higher quality”. 
Compared to the training of pro Muay Thai fighters and skill levels, they are equivalent to or beyond the quality of UFC fighters. 

ChessSensasian
najdorkmiguel wrote:

furthermore pro muay thai has more rules than ufc

It’s actually about the same. 
Wear gloves. 
Don’t hit the groin. 

ChessSensasian
najdorkmiguel wrote:
ChessSensasian wrote:
ChessSensasian wrote:
ChessSensasian wrote:
sjsharks7 wrote:

The UFC was created so that different fighting styles can be tested on each other then they figured out what works and what doesnt and that became known as mma  

MMA is a joke. 

They make up so many rules that make real fighting styles like Muay Thai less effective. 

Because the most effective fight styles are the ones that could kill people. But shows like  UFC make a joke out of real life combat by adding rules that prevent one from using more lethal moves. You aren’t allowed to hit certain places and you can rig fights in these “competitions”. Bribing fighters is not uncommon  in UFC. 

who was bribed????? wtf r u talking about

There’s evidence to suggest gambling and rigged fights. 
It’s fine if you believe it is real and there’s no corruption then

najdorkmiguel

apparently u seem to misunderstand what the ufc is first of all k1 is a mainly amateur league and in order to make the ufc u have to win  a contract by being a top fighter in the dana white Tuesday night contender series and in order to make that u have to be a dominant fighter in one of the amateur leagues such as k1 strikeforce  wec and ect.

if u would stop being an idiot u would realize that everyone in k1 is only in k1 so they can make the ufc and almost none of them do, buakaw included (im sure he tried) and therefor he is fighting with inferior competition as everyone in k1 is 2 steps away from the ufc

and u should stop bringing up irrelevant points such as lethal moves and real life combat being that k1 does not allow lethal moves or even grapling

and just becuase u watched some idiotic consparicy theorist on youtube say that the ufc rigs fights it does not mean that the ufc rigs fights and every sport k1 and muay thai included is gambled on so yes obviously people bet on fights but that is not evidence of rigged fights

Magnetta123

This is diffidently not a debate but a personal flame war.....cool, i'll need more popcorn...

najdorkmiguel

also u should stop watching k1 ill tell you what its known for its known for being a crappy third world league in which bad fighters like buakaw can dominate 

ChessSensasian
najdorkmiguel wrote:

also u should stop watching k1 ill tell you what its known for its known for being a crappy third world league in which bad fighters like buakaw can dominate 

Buakaw isn’t a bad fighter. He’s a Muay Thai champion. And even so if K-1 is fit for more kickboxing and boxing styles rather than a mma, that doesn’t mean that those in the K-1 league are lesser than those in UFC. 

najdorkmiguel

again k1 is a step up league that people use to make the ufc. it is the kickboxing equivalent of wec or strikeforce one mma and the like please attempt to know the sport before making yourself look like a fool and saying stupidities 

ChessSensasian
najdorkmiguel wrote:

apparently u seem to misunderstand what the ufc is first of all k1 is a mainly amateur league and in order to make the ufc u have to win  a contract by being a top fighter in the dana white Tuesday night contender series and in order to make that u have to be a dominant fighter in one of the amateur leagues such as k1 strikeforce  wec and ect.

if u would stop being an idiot u would realize that everyone in k1 is only in k1 so they can make the ufc and almost none of them do, buakaw included (im sure he tried) and therefor he is fighting with inferior competition as everyone in k1 is 2 steps away from the ufc

and u should stop bringing up irrelevant points such as lethal moves and real life combat being that k1 does not allow lethal moves or even grapling

and just becuase u watched some idiotic consparicy theorist on youtube say that the ufc rigs fights it does not mean that the ufc rigs fights and every sport k1 and muay thai included is gambled on so yes obviously people bet on fights but that is not evidence of rigged fights

Buakaw was rumored to come into the UFC but he is continuing to fight in his division rn.
And moves that are against the rules are ones like no

  1. Biting, eye gouging, spitting, or head butting.
  2. Wrestling, back or arm locks or any similar judo or wrestling hold.
  3. No striking the groin.

 

najdorkmiguel

and i never said he is a bad fighter i just said he isnt ufc level becuase he does not know grapling and is not as good of a striker as dustin porier connor mcgreggor justin gaethge and the like

najdorkmiguel
ChessSensasian wrote:
najdorkmiguel wrote:

apparently u seem to misunderstand what the ufc is first of all k1 is a mainly amateur league and in order to make the ufc u have to win  a contract by being a top fighter in the dana white Tuesday night contender series and in order to make that u have to be a dominant fighter in one of the amateur leagues such as k1 strikeforce  wec and ect.

if u would stop being an idiot u would realize that everyone in k1 is only in k1 so they can make the ufc and almost none of them do, buakaw included (im sure he tried) and therefor he is fighting with inferior competition as everyone in k1 is 2 steps away from the ufc

and u should stop bringing up irrelevant points such as lethal moves and real life combat being that k1 does not allow lethal moves or even grapling

and just becuase u watched some idiotic consparicy theorist on youtube say that the ufc rigs fights it does not mean that the ufc rigs fights and every sport k1 and muay thai included is gambled on so yes obviously people bet on fights but that is not evidence of rigged fights

Buakaw was rumored to come into the UFC but he is continuing to fight in his division rn.
And moves that are against the rules are ones like no

  1. Biting, eye gouging, spitting, or head butting.
  2. Wrestling, back or arm locks or any similar judo or wrestling hold.
  3. No striking the groin.

 

correct and i was saying that the ufc includes less rules as rule 2 doesnt exist in the ufc

najdorkmiguel

please do some reaserch becuase u have said numerous false things and frankly debating with someone who is uneducated is boring and frusrating its like teaching a 2 yr old how to read

ChessSensasian
najdorkmiguel wrote:

please do some reaserch becuase u have said numerous false things and frankly debating with someone who is uneducated is boring and frusrating its like teaching a 2 yr old how to read

If it’s like teaching a 2 yr old to read, I would not be able to read what you just said. 

ChessSensasian
ChessSensasian wrote:
najdorkmiguel wrote:

please do some reaserch becuase u have said numerous false things and frankly debating with someone who is uneducated is boring and frusrating its like teaching a 2 yr old how to read

If it’s like teaching a 2 yr old to read, I would be able to read what you just said. 

And if anything, you spell like a 5 yr old

ChessSensasian
najdorkmiguel wrote:

and i never said he is a bad fighter i just said he isnt ufc level becuase he does not know grapling and is not as good of a striker as dustin porier connor mcgreggor justin gaethge and the like

I believe that Buakaw is a talented fighter. Granted, he may not have enough experience fighting those in the MMA leagu, but that doesn’t mean he can’t beat any of them. 
And I admit, I’m not the most knowledgeable in these things.
But I also pointed out a lot of relevant facts.

Buakaw is a champion Muy Thai fighter.
Khabib is primarily a grappler.
And although K-1 is a “step-up” to UFC, there are those in the K-1 league that are equal quality or better quality fighters than those in the UFC.

And yeah, I may be wrong in a lot of this. That’s why it’s a debate scrum. However, using acronyms and such that suggests vulgar language doesn’t make your argument any stronger. If anything, it shows insecurity and/or the fact that you need to expand your vocabulary. 

So I will learn and research more about the UFC and K-1; you need to expand your knowledge on words. 😉

Tja_05

najdorkmiguel wrote:

and i never said he is a bad fighter i just said he isnt ufc level becuase he does not know grapling and is not as good of a striker as dustin porier connor mcgreggor justin gaethge and the like

You did say he was bad though...

Tja_05

najdorkmiguel wrote:

also u should stop watching k1 ill tell you what its known for its known for being a crappy third world league in which bad fighters like buakaw can dominate 

^^^

ChessSensasian
JustARandomPatzer wrote:

 

najdorkmiguel wrote:

 

and i never said he is a bad fighter i just said he isnt ufc level becuase he does not know grapling and is not as good of a striker as dustin porier connor mcgreggor justin gaethge and the like

 

You did say he was bad though...

 

You’ve said that he is a low quality fighter, he’s not good enough for UFC, etc.