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MelvinGarvey wrote:
paper_llama a écrit :
@melvingarvey
Last time we were having a reasonable debate you suddenly decided you were offended and didn't want to talk anymore. I don't have respect for your attitude or your ideas. [...]
Sure, I'm a jerk sometimes. I don't care. I've dealt with immensely moronic religious people for most of my life. At this point I have no reason to pretend they're anything but morons.
Your reasons are petty, same as your person. You claim things without sustaining these, and well "you don't care", which is sure obvious you care only about yourself and your ideas: it shows, and it's not pretty.
I do know for a fact, from authorities such as those who deliver official certificates and other such things, that my mind is clear enough, and well shaped enough (One of these being the University of Cambridge, UK). Your word for telling me I'd be immature has simply no weight in comparison.
And I do believe you know it, and are simply a liar and in denial about what things actually are, because you have got a problem with some people and some organisations, you expand your problem to everything and everyone that looks alike. That's your childish problem, not mine.
Cambridge? Well done! 👏
FrogboyWarpz wrote:
Life doesn't matter. But frogs do 🐸
bro what?
@paper_llama
Are you an atheist? Agnostic? De facto atheist?
Are you an atheist? Agnostic? De facto atheist?
FrogboyWarpz wrote:
Life doesn't matter. But frogs do 🐸
Agreed
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aadityakabra123 wrote:
DailyKitty1099 wrote:
Does money really buy happiness though
yes. but only if you have it in abundance.
Nah, no one who has a lot of money believes that.
Money is enough to avoid certain types of misery, but after you have enough to afford necessities having extra doesn't help anymore.
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Lincoy3304 wrote:
@paper_llama
Are you an atheist? Agnostic? De facto atheist?
Are you an atheist? Agnostic? De facto atheist?
Eh, answering that is going to start a certain kind of conversation. I've had these conversations so many times... it was fun in my early 20s, but now I don't care anymore, unless someone has a unique or interesting argument... but because you're all kids you're just going to repeat the same stuff I've heard 100 times by now.
Really basic stupid stuff... for example how science in general may be somewhat untrustworthy since its ideas seem a bit contradictory e.g. evolution and entropy can't both be true can they? (which is a ridiculous idea but an argument that many beginners might start with).
So you know, have fun figuring out scholar's mate. I'm not so interested 
Lol I’m not gonna try to disprove atheism, but I will try to show that atheists are inconsistent in their epistemology and values. That does not mean that atheism is incorrect, just it may need adjusting some beliefs.
Understand that I’m not trying to be manipulative
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One thing a lot of religious types do (and religious is different from theist) is they start with the assumption that there MUST be a supernatural explanation for the "big" questions (why do we exist, what does it all mean, etc), and that supernatural explanation MUST include the type of God that is found in Abrahamic religions (for example, you could have a God that "dies" and becomes the universe itself or something, but they don't believe that).
And then from that starting point they say, well sure you might be an atheist, but if you believe _____ or feel _____ there's a contradiction.
Sure, there's a contradiction if you start off with the assumption that the only way to answer "big" questions is with the Abrahamic God... from that starting place the only thing that makes sense is Christianity (for most people here since they're from the US). But that assumption only seems correct because you've only been exposed to one way of thinking. You can't even imagine the other answers that make just as much sense.
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Actually, that's a good place to start. I'm saying you can't imagine other answers...
Ok, so when I was interested in this topic, I went out and looked for the BEST arguments AGAINST my ideas... that's one reason I enjoyed having these conversations so much, because I wanted to hear how others disagreed with me... so go do that. If you dislike atheism, go find the BEST arguments for it. Not the ones that make it seems contradictory or bad. That's where you can begin.
Hey, I don’t only think in one way. A lot of my family has labeled me a heretic because I find deism to be a better explanation than theism. I give opinions fair sayings, and if you think I don’t, then I hope you can change your mind. Notice how I don’t make claims without research, and I don’t argue against you unless you tell me what you believe. I’d rather know your beliefs and consider them rather than profess claims against you.
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Ok, so maybe you don't believe what I thought.
In any case, I'm only interested in arguments that are good enough to make me consider changing my mind. Those are the type that are really fun. I'm making the assumption (which may not be fair or true) that I can't find those arguments on the chess.com forums... so... not sure where this conversation goes from here. Probably it just ends.
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Elite-Strategist wrote:
paper_llama wrote:
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Any «dogmatic» belief-system is automatically a «religion» though.
And, strangely enough, both the «atheists» (materialists in particular) and major the main-stream religions actually reject «re-incarnation» (and karma) teachings; not so «polemical» nor in «diametric-opposition» on that front, apparently.
Materialism is in of itself also necessarily a religion, due to its dogmatism, and, examples of materialist-behaviour being extremely dogmatic is summed up quite well in an article titled : «How the Skeptics Lost Their Minds Over a Precognition Experiment»
Yeah, skeptics and materialists lost their minds. Good thing we believe in the only thing that makes sense... which is Jesus of course. Very convenient that we were born into a family that had exactly the right religion. Would have been a lot harder if we'd been born somewhere else.
What arguments would those be, paper _llama?
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Lincoy3304 wrote:
What arguments would those be, paper _llama?
If I already knew them it wouldn't be exciting to find them
I'm interested in them because I don't know what they are.
That brings up a controversial issue that involves the soteriological problem of evil, also known as the problem of the contingently lost.
Well I’m assuming you’ve already heard the main five by William lane Craig of course? Would you mind moving this into PM’s?
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yes. but only if you have it in abundance.