Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

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Festerthetester

This topic is not about you or me or mister mutton chops.  I'll desist from further off topic banter with you or anyone else.

noodles2112

Good! 

I am still waiting to hear something about my posts suggesting that heliocentrism is random. 

Is it not a theory based upon perpetual countless random cosmic coincidences?

RoobieRoo
Optimissed wrote:
RoobieRoo wrote:

I had to look up what a wave function was and now I am way dumber than when I started.


Very roughly and in my own awful words, a function is any series of results that comes from a series of values of a variable on which those results depend.

That means that if a function of x is y = 2x then for values of x of 1, 2, 3 ,4 etc, the values of the function are 2, 4, 6, 8. If we get a trigonometrical function then we can get a wave-form as the result (a wavy line). A wave function might be a depiction of the positions of photons after they've "had something done to them", maybe by travelling through a slit in a barrier, as in Young's Experiment (double-slit).

So the function would be a waveform and that's the result of the cause of the function, which is shining photons at slits in a barrier.

I've deliberately kept it simple, which helps me too. I know that Elroch has far more expertise than I do, in explaining such things, so he can give me a mark out of ten and improve where necessary. I'm hoping for a 7/10 but not expecting it.

Actually it appears to me to be a way of attempting to describe in purely mathematical terms a phenomena that behaves in a somewhat unpredictable way, although not entirely.  Its easy to understand say an electrical A/C sine wave with its positive and negative alternations , but this is something entirely different and entirely beyond my understanding, although strangely alluring and interesting.

Festerthetester
noodles2112 wrote:

Good! 

I am still waiting to hear something about my posts suggesting that heliocentrism is random. 

Is it not a theory based upon perpetual countless random cosmic coincidences?

Simply no.  It is based on observable, measurable movements easily demonstrated with simple forms of math and science.  It has been known to be true for hundreds of years and more recently has been further proven by observations from non-earthbound sources.  It is only denied by the willfully ignorant led by charlatans who feed on them.  Enter religions and conspiracy theorists.

aarnavhps
Why noodles
How about we all ignore him and his absolute stupidity and talk about the topic
Khou0153

So basically randomness is randomness of randomness of random events that happen at the randomest times of the randomest moments of the random itself universe of random happenings of random possibilities of randombness that happen to be so random that they're more random and then most random and the the randomest randoms to ever randomly exist in this random randomness of a random excuse of random existence of randomness of random randomnesses in the whole wide random wide world of RANDOMSSSS

Khou0153

WHAT DO YOU SAY

Khou0153

DEAR LORD I EVEN FORGOT RANDOM IS A WORD BY HOW MANY RANDOMS I SO RANDOMLY SPOKE

jpb09

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DiogenesDue
Optimissed wrote:

And in a world where six-year olds are counted as adults, you're both definitely correct.

The idea is not that you should hold "adult opinions" but, whatever your opinions happen to be, you should discuss them without habitually using insults. Since both of you habitually use insulting and demeaning comments as a normal means of discussion, you can expect to get some of your own back and even so, it will clearly be seen who argues like that as a matter of course and who tries to gang up with any convenient fellow troll.

I genuinely like Noodles and so do others. It would be nice if he were able to move his thoughts forward but when you've been grabbed by religious cultists, that isn't always easy. If you like someone, you don't see them as a troll. More like a slightly irritating but pleasant person and Fester shouldn't have made his completely gratuitous attack on him.

A word about belief in the paranormal. There are definitely those who see such things as childish, gullible or anti-scientific. There are equally those who study such phenomena. However, there are gullible people on both sides of the wire. That aside and no matter who is right, discussing such matters or, indeed, any matter, like bad-tempered children or facetious semi-adults doesn't help your cause, whichever of those sub-groups you happen to occupy. Someone who sides with a person like Fester has truly shown his colours in a very bad light.

If you can find a single occurrence in a decade of my posts that trumps your own preferred insults ("imbecile" being chief among them), I will stop posting on the forums for a month...

Woollensock2
Keep chewing the cud guys , you’ll get there eventually ! ✌️😎
DiogenesDue
Optimissed wrote:

Inventing things again: that word has too many syllables for an insult. "Thug" is better. Anyway, you sided with Fester.

Not much taste, have you.

You have repeatedly used several words from the lower end of the IQ scale when targeting others on the forums in the past...a couple of those words are 1 syllable.  Your rationalization is pretty flimsy here, as all are considered insults by any educated adult.

I didn't "side" with Fester, I stated reality as I have experienced it.  I'm sure everyone you interact with is capable of deciding this kind of thing on their own.  Funny how often you seem to come up short...

As for taste, I am sure your judgments on it are as worthwhile as your rationalizations.

DiogenesDue
Optimissed wrote:

<< I stated reality as I have experienced it. >>

It would have been better for you to admit to bad taste.

Translation:  "I can't argue against any of the points you made, so here's some snark..."

RoobieRoo

will you mamas boys please stop bitchin like some real housewives of chess dot com and post some education!

DiogenesDue
RoobieRoo wrote:

will you mamas boys please stop b****in like some real housewives of chess dot com and post some education!

There's not much left to discuss on this thread barring future scientific developments.

P.S. For staff...you post filtering is out of sync again.  Roobie's quoted post caused a red banner for me when I quoted it.  I don't know if that is desktop vs. IOS vs. Android filters or what, but please fix.

RoobieRoo

@Optimissed lolz you fly the British flag Sir, you have a proper sense of decorum and I salute you for it!

RoobieRoo
btickler wrote:
RoobieRoo wrote:

will you mamas boys please stop b****in like some real housewives of chess dot com and post some education!

There's not much left to discuss on this thread barring future scientific developments.

P.S. For staff...you post filtering is out of sync again.  Roobie's quoted post caused a red banner for me when I quoted it.  I don't know if that is desktop vs. IOS vs. Android filters or what, but please fix.

yes that's pretty weird because when I posted it i got a large red banner as well, but there you have it, robomod also prefers bad taste to delusion tongue.png

Festerthetester
Optimissed wrote:

Anyway, you sided with Fester.


Reads a little like "Mommy they're picking on me".

@btickler and I rarely agree on anything unless the opportunity arises.  That's where you come in.

DiogenesDue
RoobieRoo wrote:

@Optimissed lolz you fly the British flag Sir, you have a proper sense of decorum and I salute you for it!

Decorum is actually what I maintain and Optimissed frequently loses.

British vocabulary and/or upbringing does not define decorum, or taste.  It doesn't take much to dispel that notion.

DiogenesDue
Optimissed wrote:

It's just mainly about not being sly and unpleasant all the time.

An excellent standard for you to strive for.  Tally-ho!