Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

There we go, finally some decent explanations as to what's going on

And its clear after reading only the begininng of history-returned's post that he's trying to change the meaning of what I said.
But he can be posted around - and thus be prevented from 'hijacking'.
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To explain what precession of the spin of the earth is - that's not really easy.
Does it get harder because a particular person doesn't want to accept that the earth moves at all?
Does it get harder because particular people want to troll that person and against his views in a personal way?
Not necessarily. Because their trolling posts can be used as 'placeholders' rather than 'talking points' - so that one can continue to discuss the forum topic and other topics.

The direction of spin, spins.

@Optimissed
a shorter take:
science skeptics: their posts can be used as 'talking points'.
but other people who are here mainly to troll against nonconformity: their posts can be used as 'placeholders' to post around.
But regarding Elroch - 'E' has a genuine interest in science.
Several people here do.

Yes I like science

Yes.
To really understand spin versus orbit - its useful to picture it rather than just relying on vocabulary.
One can look at pictures and videos but there's also the idea of mentally forming one's own pictures.
It turns out (pun intended) that the orbits of the 8 planets are also tilted.
Not just their spins.
With earth's orbit most tilted to the plane of the sun's equator and spin. About 7 degrees.
And Mercury least tilted.
Those tilts also have a 'direction'. Does it change too? Is that also called 'precession'?
Apparently yes.
But its messy. Those tilst are not around the long nor short axis of the ellipses (orbits tend to be elliptical whereas spins are very circular) ...
Are they random? I don't know.
When I looked it up just now - the words 'wobbling' and 'nodal' appeared frequently but seem inappropriate/unnecessary.

yes I know about this stuff

Sounds good.
Regarding 'what's going on' I mentioned 'science skeptics' and those trolling against nonconformity - against it - not for it.
I am emphasizing that those are two different groups of people.

Ah

There are five different science forums with the same opening poster.
This is one of them.
The other four are about evolution - cosmology - AI - and global warming.
The global warming one is often the 'hottest'.
Pun intended.
Recently somebody there was suggesting that the moon should be 'nuked'. Disposed of.

Not noodles doing that.

I seriously doubt there are nukes that powerful

Regarding randomness - is it 'random' that the furthest of the eight planets - Neptune - has the highest wind speeds?
No. It can be explained.
Doesn't mean it was by 'design' though.
Process rather than design.

'seriously doubt' sounds about right.
But it was funny at the time.
I 'seriously doubt' that that poster actually meant what he said.
Was having us on.
He also suggested that fuel should maybe be 'brought back from Jupiter'.
Fuel obtained there.
Many things would make that 'kind of a problem'.
Including the gravity of Jupiter.
The gravity of the situation.

okay - here is Randomness -

Gravity is "fickle/random" same as Coriolis effect -

e.g. they say Coriolis effects projectiles like bullets - but does not effect planes - despite some planes traveling much faster than bullets/projectiles ----- sounds like a conundrum to me ! ?

Gravity keeps planes on the ground simultaneously keeping planes in the air from flying out into "outer space" --

I am certain Elroch/others shall come up with an "explanation" & solve this random riddle !!

The Coriolis effect does in fact *affect* planes, but its effect is much smaller than the other things that affect planes, such as the Jet Stream. Which by the way is CAUSED by the Coriolis effect. Autopilot usually corrects for Coriolis.
Also, is the gravity thing part of your riddle? Do I need to answer that part as well?

how does Coriolis effect - affect - planes traveling at Mach 3, Mach 4 , Mach 5 etc. for if they had to adjust for Coriolis effect - the plane would incinerate itself !

lets skip "gravity" - after all - No theoretical gravity = No heliocentric theory.

No, GUESSING what happens is not reliable. You need to CALCULATE it correctly. If you are unable to, you need to find someone competent to do so. No shame in that, but you do need to avoid arrogant incompetent sources (and you are bad at doing so, based on observation).

Elroch - whos' guessing ?

these planes that can travel faster than sound/bullets cannot turn on a dime going too fast -

even commercial airlines cannot travel past certain speeds or the plane could come apart in flight!.

No, "they" do not.

They can legitimately say that it affects projectiles slightly (as many individuals confirm by personal observation), and that the effect on planes is scarcely significant (also widely verified by individuals, both amateur and professional).

To quantify the force it is a maximum of about 0.005 g (north-south plane at high latitude moving around 900 km/h), and is always perpendicular to the direction of motion. Tpathhe latter is important, as it means it consumes no energy. All a plane needs is a tiny amount of steering to compensate.

Air resistance is a lot bigger, at a typical 0.05 to 0.1 g. The engines provide an opposite acceleration to keep velocity constant. But the direction of this being along the line of motion, it's what consumes all the energy. Coriolis' force only needs very gentle compensation and virtually no energy.

so you think "autopilot" adjusts for Coriolis effect -- after all -- most commercial planes are flown on autopilot -- especially long distance international flights !