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1.  Camus decided last minute to take the car he already bought train ticket. Gallimard's friend and driver and Camus made a gueuleton before accident (wine!).

2. KGB had ten other ways to eliminate more surely Camus, who started to get involved against URSS because of Ungarn invasion. Camus hated, till those days,  ideologies, opposition with JP SARTRE.

3.Complotism theory , 2011 ? We 'll never know because KGB archivs of this story stay classified for centuries. 

Me ? shame on me, one second before your post I ignored all about that fascinating thesis. Ty Livat01 friend 193.

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I think the migration thing will stop when FN wins tho. I assume they are going to win in not so long time, probably next presidential. And the normal right will have to copy their policies to a large extent to continue to exist.

It's scary for me with a FN-ruled France though, because Jean-Marie Le Pen was so crazy. They say his daughter is different but my feeling is she is just making facade to win more votes, she is a woman so better at manipulating and veiling her true self than her father. 

I saw interviews with her and she can give journalists this sort of mafioso glance ... hinting "be careful what you say to me now, because i never forget anything and i will once be ruler of france... you just might get bad problems someday ... very bad very unpleasant problems."

I don't see that glance in "normal" politicians.

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Seems like we never will get rid of that scum in Europe.

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They have in common with other politicians they take advantage of many people being illiterate and following their guts to solve problems.

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Pulpofeira wrote:

Seems like we never will get rid of that scum in Europe.

you can never get completely rid of them because they are rooted in some core parts of our culture, they will always be a possible deveopment.

when they are small their "thing" just takes other forms, for instance a rock star with 80.000 applauding audience replaces the duce with 80.000 applauding audience.

the emotions are always there, all you can do is morph them into something else for some time, but now they are morphing back to what they were in 30ies.

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NB: I'm not against death penalty because I want to be kind with criminals or because I have some sort of excuse culture. I'm against (I mean really against) death penalty because I do not trust the state enough to give it the right to kill people that way.


All the theory about human rights is about this. Human rights are not actually citizen rights. They are duties of the state, and bans on certains state actions, nothing more. The only goal is to protect the people from the state, which is intrinsically obnoxious. All history available has proven beyond any doubt that a state was primarly an alliance between  a bunch of wealthy people and a military cast, whose purpose was to protect the wealth and the privilge of the wealthy ones.

  Just look at the recent events: french feared for their security and allowed the "emergency state" which include the possibility to force some selected people to stay at home without trial. How was it used? To get rid of some environmental militants before the COP 21 summit who had nothing to do with Jihadis.

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yes nothing to do with France, just FN is a party in a democracy. Call it "scum" allows to make a deeper analysis, not so desperate: we'll get rid of parties, and scum who can be related to some, the day some other majoritary system will come. Not sure the best is coming, not sure the worse is sure. (proverb normand trad. "p'tet ben qu'oui, p'têt ben qu'non).

After all, since Revolution 1789, we have emperors (2), occupations foreigners (3), kings (3), and republics (5), next constitution (6th) is announced by socialist Mitterand since ... 1965, saying 5th constitution is "permanent pronunciamento". Actually no one dares to change 5th constitution, a masterpiece for driving indomptable frenchies. It is France about, frenchies are strange.

concerning migs, there are Chopin Poland, Liszt, Ungarn , and Attila, Ungarn too. Today our pb is to say "welcome portuguese, here we need u to build Spaniards migs houses" and to say "u, u bring nothing to F, get out Attila".

Manuel Valls works on it, Fn too, thefirt more efficient in that challenge will win. Or de G. back, or no F. anymore.

Before this beverage will be forbidden if offending soe culture :        CHAMPAIGN in France the Brave.

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The king of drinks, the drink of kings

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the monk creating champaign with 2nd fermentation.

Methode champenoise, imitations Crimea, everywhere.

our "Sir Alexander Fleming", frenchies are not seriousLaughing.

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Raspberry_Yoghurt escribió:
Pulpofeira wrote:

Seems like we never will get rid of that scum in Europe.

you can never get completely rid of them because they are rooted in some core parts of our culture, they will always be a possible deveopment.

when they are small their "thing" just takes other forms, for instance a rock star with 80.000 applauding audience replaces the duce with 80.000 applauding audience.

the emotions are always there, all you can do is morph them into something else for some time, but now they are morphing back to what they were in 30ies.

I agree with this, that's why I think a high level of education for all the people (an idea the power usually looks at with disgust) helps to prevent those "sheep style" behaviours.

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that's an insult to sheep.

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French, I'm talking about fascists in general, not a party in a democracy. Do you know why there aren't extreme wing parties in Spain? That scum (yes, I call them scum because this is a family site) never lost their place in the institutional legal environment here, so no need to assault it from the margins of the system.

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It seems that in France FN tries to be considered by every media as a regular normal one, as Jospin, formerly TROTSKYST active member of th V Internationale, is considered as regular ordinary Mr toutlemonde, as Cohn Bendit , formerly forbidden in France for activism ultra wing, is considered as regular mr Mig asking to go back from Francfort to be Frenchy to get retired with better money and better air......as me.

Here it is not Spain, people change vest two three times in their political life. No one would die in Guernica, no one would die for ideologies anymore.  Martine Aubry has nothing to do with Pasionaria, here Sirra de Terruel spirit is dead since 1981 Mitterand.

Jospin and Holland have nothing to do with Felipe LaughingGonzalez.

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Here fascists and communists, socialists, and right wing , center tooo, everybody will tonite drink ?? first to answer gets a free bottle.

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Even fascists didn't dare to forbid us that, even communists drink it with caviar when they have no vodka, in Crimea three lovr of mankind had champaign to celebrate a famous agreement : 

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Dom Perignon was a monk, another one was famous, transition between Roma civilization and birth of French nation. Withou him, no Clovis, Franc, no France.

Nameof the monk is famous as Dom Perignon, more we supose, everywhere in the world : Martin de Tours, my place, the place to live, cheese Ste Maure, drinks vouvray and ....St Martin , 

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That's why you could contact le resistance only through bartenders I suppose.

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lol

concerning Touraine , the biggest monk of all times cme from Ungarn, like Attila. Unlike Attila, sort of terrorist who killed everything,  Martin from Ungarn started a incredible amount of cloisters giving food, fish, work, soldiers, and .... Luther too.

The oldest cloister in Occident - St Martin de Ligugé -

Walls ; State property, since 1905.

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Why Martin de Tours here? France the Brave? hm? why ???

1. first he was brave, roman officer on the limes, facing barbarians. 

2. then he was generous, giving (legend?) half of his coat to a beggar, refusing to be bishop in Tours, F.

3. he choosed to forget roman idols, and promoted other spirituality than Clotilde choosed this new way.

4. Clotilde was Clovis 's wife. and Clovis rude barbarian, killing all his family to stay king, became in same spirit that his wife, starting thousand four hundred years of strong cooperation with Pope. 

Martin 400 ----ideas promoting --> Clotilde ->Clovis-->1788!

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Facel Vega... SmileFrench luxary car maker at it's peak...Camus sat in the passenger seat...De Gaulle preferred Citroën DS...Surprised

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