Forbes????? Hmmmm I guess they dont have an agenda. Forbes represents business interests. Nothing wrong with that. However, they are hardly unbiased. I prefer primary sources and not ancdotle stories. Oh yeah, EVERY scientific organization in the world is falsifying data!
Primary sources? Mann would not reveal his data. Broke the first rule of ethical science.
Like I said, who cares about Mann???? That is ONE scientist. First I would like info about him from an unbiased source and second, I never said that EVERY scientist is honest, that is as bad as you saying that EVERY scientist is falsifying data.
Yes, I am familiar with the hockey stick. I will send sites (legitimate sites such as NASA etc) that explain how the "hockey stick" objection was fantasy.
Well, you can believe that NASA, Royal Academy, American Meteorological Society, Scientific American and EVERY scientific organization in the world is lying. I think that is crazy! Besides if EVERY scientific organization in the world is falsifying data where do you get your data that denies AGW?
Put the sites on here fischerman_bob. We won't get anywhere by saying 'I have these sites! I have these sites!'. I'm on your side but I'd like to see these sites.
Not a problem! Like I said, I am on a tablet right now and I cannot post sites. However, it will be easy for me to cut and paste my posts from another forum. I have pages of sites and data!!!!
Looking back at a recently published paper on ancient sea level and CO2, and noting that the most recent paper by Dr. James Hansen seems to be getting the cold shoulder, I thought it would be a good idea to have a look at both.
First, Hansen’s paper, which isn’t peer-reviewed yet, but is generating some media attention, and some of it isn’t so good. It is titled:
Ice melt, sea level rise and superstorms: evidence from paleoclimate data, climate modeling, and modern observations that 2 ◦C global warming is highly dangerous
Hansen, J., Sato, M., Hearty, P., Ruedy, R., Kelley, M., Masson-Delmotte, V., Russell, G., Tselioudis, G., Cao, J., Rignot, E., Velicogna, I., Kandiano, E., von Schuckmann, K., Kharecha, P., Legrande, A. N., Bauer, M., and Lo, K.-W.: Ice melt, sea level rise and superstorms: evidence from paleoclimate data, climate modeling, and modern observations that 2 °C global warming is highly dangerous, Atmos. Chem. Phys. Discuss., 15, 20059-20179, doi:10.5194/acpd-15-20059-2015, 2015....
Meanwhile, Climate Depot reports: Former NASA lead global warming scientist James Hansen’s new sea level rise scare study gets ‘cold shoulder’ from climate establishment.
It seems even some of the worst offenders in alarmism, including Michael Mann, consider Hansen’s claims “over the top”. This may in fact be the first paper in recent times that Hansen has submitted that has a strong possibility of being rejected for publication. It appears he’s lost his mojo with his peers when they say thing like in the bullet point list above.
I’ll remind readers that one of Hansen’s most alarming predictions about sea level rise in New York City has yet to come to pass, looked to be falsfied in 2011, and so the goalposts got moved into the future, just as Morano says. Readers may recall our story about the claim Hansen made about the West Side Highway in New York city being underwater by now, due to sea level rise, visible from Hansen’s office at GISS.
Climate depot???? They are part of an organization that denies that smoking is unhealthy. They are an industry propaganda site. Primary sources please!!! Not right wing blogs.
Actually, in another forum I destroyed that "Hansen" nonsense. I will provide the evidence. One must eemember that climate depot has loads of petrol dollars and is basically the oil industry's lobbyist (in the sense that they are paid by industry to make industry's desires seem sensible.
You should be more concerned about the veracity of the information, than the source.
Ummm well.....how do you tell if the data is true or falsified? The fact is that EVERY source of data confirms global warming. There is no data from credentialed organizations that dispute AGW.
I suppose it is possible that every scientific organization in the world is falsifying data * and I have no way of knowing. I cannot visit and inspect every scientific instrument in the world.
* However, the idea that EVERY scientific organization is part of a conspiracy to aid the solar power industry and injure the oil industry is stupid.Even the Petroleum Institute acknowledges AGW!!! Their sponsers the petrochemical industry )
was pissed. But the scientists stuck to the truth even tho the truth made them lose money from their employer.
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Ummm well.....how do you tell if the data is true or falsified? The fact is that EVERY source of data confirms global warming. There is no data from credentialed organizations that dispute AGW.
I suppose it is possible that every scientific organization in the world is falsifying data * and I have no way of knowing. I cannot visit and inspect every scientific instrument in the world.
* However, the idea that EVERY scientific organization is part of a conspiracy to aid the solar power industry and injure the oil industry is stupid.Even the Petroleum Institute acknowledges AGW!!! Their sponsers the petrochemical industry )
You keep repeating your strawman argument.
I doubt anybody is going to dethrone you just like that towelie.
You should be more concerned about the veracity of the information, than the source.
OMG... if you cannot comprehend that glaciers are melting, the ocean is rising, you are the biggest idiot ever... enough said.
We are coming out of an Ice Age, one of the coldest periods of time in the Earth's history. Of course the climate is warming. Are you able to read a graph? What is the 65-million year trend, smart guy?
As for sea level change, in the last 21,000 years, sea level has risen in excess of 120 meters/400 feet. Most of that is attributed to the melting of the great continental ice sheets of the Northern Hemisphere, in places over a mile thick. The graph below shows that much of that melt was finished 7,000 years ago. However, sea level has steadily risen about 4 meters since then. How much did human have to do with that? Nothing at all.
Here's to hoping you can get your IQ into triple digits. No need to thank me.
Ha ha ha ha that fake graph???? A denier cult member tried to pull the same stunt at another forum.
Nope, we are not coming out of an ice age!!!! Stop making stuff up!!!!!! Actually we should be getting cooler,so even if temp was constant (it keeps getting warmer) that would be evidence of man's effect on the temperature.
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Are you aware of the so-called "Hockey Stick"?? That's what got the "Global Warming Crisis". Nothing gets funding better than a nice crisis.
Global Warming. War on Drugs. No Child Left Behind. The New Deal. War on Poverty. Midnight Basketball. LOLZ History is replete with government-funded projects and programs to deal with manufactured crises.