How to Live

yes take part on political life depends on democracy , standard of living, stress: if u have weird neighbours as north Korea, u may have sthg important to solve before asking new coulour for ..red lights at cross roads.

The most critics are : frenchies, especially newcomers who brings nothing to the country, those who pay ..nothing, uk people for others countries, usa bashers inside, realizing NOT they are on the top of the world.

the most dangerous are those who want happiness for humanity.  Or money for things happening centuries ago, opening door to aeternal vendettas as in underdeveloped country, Corsica, Guyana, Sicilia, Etcetera.

Which nation at present have the ideal laws and government? Im not planning to immigrate 😊 Just curious. No copy n paste please, opinions are welcome.

Again, like I asked you in post #14 "And go where?"

By the way, that's twice now. It's emigrate not immigrate.

As says Cicero : "bis repetita placent".

Pb of emigration in case law of the country is not ok with one is the classic answer we give to people complaining, when coming from other countries. "why don't you live?"

Most of people changing laws come from emigration in France, Robert Badinter, ManuelValls, Anne hidalgo, .... all are second generations. To solve the pb of refumigs, we give that file to someone son of immigrate. 

Where to emigrate if laws are not good ? well, USA Australis, NZ, ...UK, Canada, the list is a short list. 

Censor : I remember very old days when people said "better be red than dead". Were they all coward ? survivors? 

Cemeteries are full of unknown heroes too.

Before saying someone is a coward,i consider myself in a situation ,vs myself in an armchair with Pepette. it is not the same : plenty of people today know they would have done in WWII. But you only live one time :

woudl u think all would have done what they say today?

it is the classical problematic of speaking or not when tortured.

interesting : a survivor avoiding to be imprisoned soul and body by fears, when working on fears. It is a task I personnally did with zen, sophrology, elaxation, meditation, etc... it works : the world in may 1940 was worse than today!

Different threads have to be faced, and whe u succed, u have to maintain , as Wilhelm of Orange, the Staadhouder; 'cause maintain is more difficult than eradicate.

Why to believe in socialism the moment nobody believes in ? violence may erupt, we faced that in may 1968, an they disappeared. 

something more important than myself ? well, I can't imagine that. something valuable to lose life for ? my children , ok, what else? ome theories offering free shaving tomorrow ? 

Tell me first where are you. If you are in 1st world nations, stay 😊 Im from Philippines then migrated to Taiwan. For 3rd world residents, where corrupt govt is common, there are opportunities to leave for the skilled n educated.. I have heroic ideals when I was young like most of us 😊

nobodyreally wrote:

Mandy711 wrote:

If you dont like the laws of a nation, immigration is the answer. And easier than changing the laws to your liking

Mandy711 wrote:

Which nation at present have the ideal laws and government? Im not planning to immigrate 😊 Just curious. No copy n paste please, opinions are welcome.

Again, like I asked you in post #14 "And go where?"

By the way, that's twice now. It's emigrate not immigrate.

Ill use migrate from now on to avoid cofusion 😊

The only way to good I call a double death. That is, the first death is the renunciation, when you become aware that there is a morality. So perhaps it's innate, more likely when you're 2 or 3, even more likely when you're 7 (or even perhaps 14 post-pubescent) but regardless at some point in the normal development of a child you will experience the society telling you the rules to renounce you and make you aware that there is a moral law that you ought to follow.

This first death is very easy and only if you are a complete invalid and don't develop normally will you never experience this death. But the second death is the hardest. I like to compare the first death to the 'knowing-that' (you know that you ought to do such and such) and the second death the 'knowing-how' (you know how you ought to do what you do - out of duty rather than out of some selfish incentive). So when you do something out of greater fear for another thing, even though you're doing the right thing as prescribed by the first death, you're still at base evil because you haven't yet died twice.

And the problem is further complicated because you're not conscious whether you're doing the moral thing really out of duty (because its the moral thing) or rather out of fear. Because this fear isn't conscious. After your first death, the renunciation, the prohibition slips away into your long-term unconscious memory so to speak. So this second death is the hardest, a long arduous process and takes time. This unraveling of the unconscious will, as Kant called it, can only be accomplished by your own efforts at recollecting your own self.

So how do recollect your renunicated fears or guilt? By writing yourself in short. Metaphorically, it's all about payback or as I said getting a purchase on your power of judgment. Don't be miserable or miserly - keeping your inheritance from the renunciation. Thank it, thank the renunciation, resign to and accept your fate, and perhaps snake charm your way into masochistic submission. 

1st death - realization

2nd death - absolute thanking

any suggestions or solutions please!!

well it seems than Phoenix inspires this approach, death rebirth redeath etc ...nb : Not Arizona, bird, for obtuse..

A solution "en soi" seems difficult, absurd, or both, would mean i know the key for humanity, supposes the Other (the Hell) interets me enough to give the key, and supposes the same key is good for all humanity.

In fact, Sartre was illogic, pretending in his proletarian approach having the key, and philosophical approach than the Other was hell.

Or may be Sartre, as proletarian fighter, wanted to give humanity the ley to hell : socialism??

nb: just a impersonal and general interesting paradox about Sartre, not a judgement about theoretical heaven : socialism, not yet experimented according ALL wings / left politicians. 

1 step , better than death : realization, 99,99% have not the food in the stomach to accomplish this, justone and definitive real death. I'm not sure what it works for the other coud be general and inpersonal, just my thinking.

Also sprach fB  Buon giorno , Op, ty!

I like my paradox ;how the sem philo. Sartre can pretend "the Other is hell" and care with "la Cause du peuple" proletarian wing, Billancourt ?? incrediblehow the mankind is full of contradictions, zen kuan ty!

Stop worrying and start living. ~ Dale Carnegie

People in general worry too much ☺

So deep is friend mandy's thinking i got Vertigo and hitchkock made a movie about it .