I found the meaning of life.
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Dec 10, 2016
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#22
I'm having an existential crisis and this is REALLY helpful. Thank you.
Dec 10, 2016
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#24
I think the part about the meaning of life is to experience it is interesting. I'm not sure meaning is the right word. More the value perhaps. Innate value. Something like that.
Dec 10, 2016
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#25
The part about awareness I don't agree with that. Awareness happened and is happening naturally. It's not about anything wanting anything. That's projecting the idea of a being onto nature.
Dec 10, 2016
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#26
Anyway Marco I think you and I see the basic truth which is the self does not exist and it's all one.
...case of "We're here because We're here because We're here....."to the nth degree.Thus spake Zarathustra( on a good day)
Tomtalk wrote:
Anyway Marco I think you and I see the basic truth which is the self does not exist and it's all one.
No, you are wrong.
The self really exists, despite the fact of the origin of life.
Dec 10, 2016
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#29
When you self what do you mean? You'd consider free will to exist for example?
Tomtalk wrote:
When you self what do you mean? You'd consider free will to exist for example?
Self = sense of individuality
Dec 10, 2016
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#33
If you mean that we experience ourselves as individuals then sure. But we experience ourselves as still and we aren't.
Dec 10, 2016
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#34
I'm genuinely interested in what you hold to be the truth Marco. I've a feeling that we actually hold the same view but I would like to see what you believe. Or know.
Tomtalk wrote:
Or that people are in some way unique?
People are unique in some way, yes, despite the fact the origin come from a common source.
It is easy to see: observe the puppies of a litter of cats.
All of them came from the same source (the cat mother), but every puppy will be different (you can observe their different behavior).
the meaning of life is 42
Right that's it.
I've had enough.
Cats don't have puppies.
OK?
I've had enough.
Cats don't have puppies.
OK?
Dec 11, 2016
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#38
Ha ha.
Okay Marco but what about volition. Are we doing as nature intends or is there someone that's deciding things? My own view is only nature exists.
Do you see the distinction? I mean the sea has individual droplets of water but they are still the sea.
I suppose in people it's a little different because unlike drops of water animals are conscious so although they are still part of nature their behaviour is affected by what they observe.
Okay Marco but what about volition. Are we doing as nature intends or is there someone that's deciding things? My own view is only nature exists.
Do you see the distinction? I mean the sea has individual droplets of water but they are still the sea.
I suppose in people it's a little different because unlike drops of water animals are conscious so although they are still part of nature their behaviour is affected by what they observe.
Dec 11, 2016
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#39
I'm interested in your view.
If I'm honest I think I know the truth and that life is neither meaningful nor meaningless. It's just nature doing its thing. There is no being. Not really.
Still you seem certain you have a view and I'm genuinely interested to hear about it.
If I'm honest I think I know the truth and that life is neither meaningful nor meaningless. It's just nature doing its thing. There is no being. Not really.
Still you seem certain you have a view and I'm genuinely interested to hear about it.
MorningTOM-TOM.What a nite at"Wine Haven".Bet a few hangovers around today.No multi-colored yawns on the premises fortunately.The "mob" were Ok too.Harry "the Horse"even smiled once 
).I was most impressed with your dealings with "Mad" Frankie Spoononi! You made it clear that if he "dissed" you again.................
.He sure went away with his tail between his legs.Sorry that kaynight didn't show last night.I know you were very disappointed.But Hey- kaynight really likes you-why don't you two make up? It's Christmas.Hey why not put up a few sprigs of mistletoe at the "Wine Haven"?I thought your idea of installing a juke box in the bar was good.What tunes shall we put on it?Some country and western-Boxcar Willie?
NASA seems to be joking.
You can find a draw of the "former planet" Pluto everywhere in internet.
This is a joke.
See the draw below and... guess what? Which dog can we draw in Pluto?