If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up

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The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

[drpsholder] "So even the things we cant explain........don't have a supernatural cause. They have a natural cause."

(#1612) What's your proof for that?

He doesn't have any. He's just babbling. Hilarious !....he talks like he's wallowing in drunkedness.

....and drpsholder ?....maybe you should go sleep off your overindulgence hon.

Except that I posted my evidence in #1614. WHAHAHAHAHAH!  Wow you are more dumb than I originally thought!

You are just plain stupid, but I hope you dont run away like all the rest. Where else am I going to find people willing to say stupid things just for my entertainment! LMAO!

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bgjettguitar wrote:
(Intelligent Design) A. Intelligent design does not require the designer to be the God of the Bible, and is supported by scientific evidence. Intelligent design may be held by persons of various non-biblical faiths, or even no faith. Q. Isn’t Intelligent Design untestable, and therefore not scientific? A. Intelligent Design is no less testable than Darwinian Evolution since neither may be observed or analyzed in a laboratory experiment. However evidence of ID can be observed. If Darwinian Evolution must be considered science, so must Intelligent Design. See ID and the Scientific Method. Q. Isn’t Intelligent Design the same as Creationism? A. No. Creationism is the belief that the Genesis account in the Bible explains the creation of the Universe by God whereas ID does not attempt to identify whether the designer is a personal being or not. Q. No real scientists support Intelligent Design, right? A. That is wrong; highly credible scientists support intelligent design. Examples include Michael Behe, William A. Dembski, Stephen C. Meyer, Dean Kenyon, Douglas Axe, Guillermo Gonzalez, Jonathan Wells, and many others. Q. Hasn’t Science proved Darwinism? A. No. There is much scientific evidence that challenges neo-Darwinian evolution, ranging from irreducible complexity to the fossil record to DNA. Q. Science has proved Natural Selection. Therefore isn’t Intelligent Design false? A. No. While Natural Selection may occur, Natural Selection alone does not produce new species. Intelligent Design does not argue against Natural Selection. Q. Since Intelligent Design does not limit itself to methodological naturalism, doesn’t that mean it isn’t scientific? A. Methodological naturalism is a modern, superficially imposed limitation on observed phenomena, a limitation that inhibits scientists from exploring explanations that may be the best fit for the data. Intelligent Design is not hindered by this limitation. Thus, intelligent design is actually within the historical tradition of scientific research.

I know brother...........you and I both know that designer was a frog. Only stupid people would believe the designer is god.

Thanks for agreeing with me!

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ClemsonTiger wrote:

True Biblical faith requires no proof...if proof is needed in order to believe then it is no longer faith...Jesus told Thomas " because you have seen you believe, blessed are they that have not seen and yet believe."...that being said, atomic rift is correct in that evidence abounds for God and the accuracy and legitimacy of the Bible

Correcto...........faith is the belief in something that has no evidence whatsoever. That's what makes it strange to smart people. To stupid people, it sounds logical to believe in things with no evidence.

We have no evidence of aliens, but they MUST believe in them.........because of Faith.

We have no evidence of unicorns, but they MUST believe in them........because of faith.

if you believe in things without evidence, then you must believe in all the things that have no evidence..............which is pretty stupid, but oh so entertaining!

WHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHH

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ClemsonTiger wrote:

True Biblical faith requires no proof...if proof is needed in order to believe then it is no longer faith...Jesus told Thomas " because you have seen you believe, blessed are they that have not seen and yet believe."...that being said, atomic rift is correct in that evidence abounds for God and the accuracy and legitimacy of the Bible

So tell us what aliens do and show us the tests that you performed to lead to your conclusion.  What?  You didn't do any tests because you have no aliens to test?

then why believe they can do anything?????

So tell us what Gods do and show us the tests that you performed to lead to your conclusion. What? You didn't do any tests because you have no god to test? Then why believe this so called god can do anything???

LMAO!  This is why talking to religious people is so entertaining. They believe the dumbest of things and their beliefs are not consistent.

No evidence for god but believe in him anyway. No evidence for unicorns, so they don't believe.  Insanity at its best! WHAHAAHAHAHHAHA

iluvzmituna

if anybody correctly gives me the number of babyish adhoms and infantile hatemongering posts that alex-rodriguez has posted so far, I will send them a trophy.

FRENCHBASHER

I like this topic,just a short one : 

"do u live on a desert island?

- yes

- no if you're there, it's not desert.

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Stephenson2 wrote:
drpsholder wrote:
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

[drpsholder] "So even the things we cant explain........don't have a supernatural cause. They have a natural cause."

(#1612) What's your proof for that?

He doesn't have any. He's just babbling. Hilarious !....he talks like he's wallowing in drunkedness.

....and drpsholder ?....maybe you should go sleep off your overindulgence hon.

Except that I posted my evidence in #1614. WHAHAHAHAHAH!  Wow you are more dumb than I originally thought!

You are just plain stupid, but I hope you dont run away like all the rest. Where else am I going to find people willing to say stupid things just for my entertainment! LMAO!

Where is the proof either one of you have

Did you not read my post. I clearly mentioned post #1614

SuperBlooper103
ZigyStardust wrote:

you can't prove that jesus ever existed. it's fiction.

It's very unlikely that Jesus didn't exist. A whole regligion, cultural movement and shift in the zeitgeist doesn't just pop out of nowhere.

While it's quite certain that he did exist, whether he is the "son of God" is completely a question of faith.

iluvzmituna

If the bible and the theory of evolution are both fiction, where do we go from here ?

Haters of anything religious can drop their trolling and start discussing like mature adults, since they are pedalling the same orocess as the thing they are complaining about, is that even possible ?

Or will they be lost without quoting their sacred science books or using copy and paste ?

Do they even realize that spirituality is unrelated to organized religions ?

Atomic_Rift
ZigyStardust wrote:
Stephenson2 wrote:
ZigyStardust wrote:

you can't prove that jesus ever existed. it's fiction.

It is in the "Bible the first four chapters.

Matthew

Mark

Luke

John

is this your best argument? lol

bible is fiction

yawn

If you don't believe in the Bible then you must believe in science...

http://y-jesus.com/wwrj/1-jesus-real-person/

The_Ghostess_Lola

Much of today's hypothetical science is made up. But you go ahead and keep on believing in this "popscience". It'll all be 4gotten when the next book - motivated by $ making - comes up. Then that'll be the next big ooh aah thingy. 

And simply put ?....the farther away we get from this flying stone the less science knows - and our lack of knowledge is exponential.

Most of you are nascently naive. So go change your underwear....you know, the ones w/ the cartoon characters ?

Atomic_Rift

I'm not naive, I'm loyal. 

The_Ghostess_Lola

(S2 #1703) It is a good argument and yes I do believe in Science

....and you realize that there's not much "proven" science, yes ? So believe is the perfect word you used. See how you're not any different than the creationist ?

You may wanna check your shoes. I can smell what you just stepped in from here....Smile....

The_Ghostess_Lola
Atomic_Rift wrote:

I'm not naive, I'm loyal. 

I'm not saying you AR. But most atheists are lapdog loyal to a fool's fault. Science will pet you as it watches TV. Then it'll change the channel to learn about the next popscience idea. And the previous channel will be abruptly cancelled 'cuz it got laffed off the air....Smile....

Atomic_Rift

@ZigyStardust: Ah well, if you have that mindset you're going to be blind to the truth. There is substantial "proof" and that's a hard word to use! It also involves faith, and if you don't have any faith where is your hope?

http://jonathanpark.com/blog/

The_Ghostess_Lola
ZigyStardust wrote:

hold up

bible is fiction

evolution theory is just scientifically cripled

Evolutionary theory is just that....150 years of a desperately stretched wild-haired hypothesis. And it's a 1000 piece puzzle that can't even find half its edges. You know, the ez'iest part ? In your lifetime you won't even come close to finding any of the inside pieces that have been long lost....if you can even believe they were ever even strewn under the world's sofas.

And I'll go ahead and let you call out to your tree-swinging ancestors. You can be assured they're laffing at your desperate hope that they're your cousin. I'm sure they don't wanna be associated with some one "below" them....and they test out at a 50 IQ !

Where does that place you on the intelligence scale ?    

Atomic_Rift

So what is your belief The_Ghostess_Lola?

Americu

Super intelligent Aliens anyone ?

Who needs " God " or Darwin when you can have visitors from the Alpha Quadrant with the Mother of all chemistry labs.

After all, DNA sequencing looks remarkedly similar to computer programming.

Maybe the Big Bang was the Mother of all Physics assignments and " Life " is the Mother of all Biology assignments.

If a higher intelligence is the author of all things Universal, then perhaps

Super-advanced, inter-dimensional, science freaks from beyond space and time are the " Prime " suspects.

Atomic_Rift

There is so much evidence on how evolution is false. You'll find that their so-called early man are just ape skeletons. Their best case is the horse and even that's so flawed. They say the horse has evolved from this tiny 5-inch tall thing to this great beast that is today. Yes there are tiny horse skeletons but here's the problem, they're found on the same level of dirt as the horses today. OOPS!! It didn't evolve, it's just a different species of horse!

And last but definitely not least, why do we still see monkeys in the zoo? What's the matter, they didn't want to come??

SuperBlooper103

What does evolution have to do with whether God exists?

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